I think that is a good idea. it is hard to proof read your own stuff no matter how good you are at proof reading other people's stuff.
Should ALL reviews go through the proofreading process?
05/25/2012
I think higher ranking members should have the option. I'm not at a level where my reviews don't need proof-read but when I get there I would still like to know I can have someone check over my review to catch anything that I may not have seen no matter how many times I re-read it. When you know what you wrote in your head you sometimes gloss over little things like typos, etc.
05/25/2012
I think all review should go through the proofing process.I've seen a few badly written ones though not a lot.
05/25/2012
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While it would be nice, not all need it...
Originally posted by
Ms. N
When we get to a certain point level, our reviews no longer go through the proofreading process, and we are expected to proofread for ourselves. It seems likely, however, that this magic number does not automatically make everyone capable of
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When we get to a certain point level, our reviews no longer go through the proofreading process, and we are expected to proofread for ourselves. It seems likely, however, that this magic number does not automatically make everyone capable of catching and correcting their own grammar and typographical errors. Should ALL reviews go through the proofreading process, regardless of a person's rank?
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05/31/2012
I would really, really like to be able to have my reviews proofread. I think I do a fine job on my own, but I would be much more confident in my work if I could have another user look it over.
06/17/2012
I think they all should go through the process. I just read one where there was over ten mistakes and barely any punctuation. It distracted me from the review since I could not get over how many mistakes there was.
06/25/2012
I would like to have the option!
06/26/2012
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I totally agree!
Originally posted by
Ansley
Some of the most intelligent people in the world have the worst grammatical skills known to man-kind.
That being said, we all make mistakes. There's a rule of thumb that states the spoken or written sentence that corrects another's ... more
That being said, we all make mistakes. There's a rule of thumb that states the spoken or written sentence that corrects another's ... more
Some of the most intelligent people in the world have the worst grammatical skills known to man-kind.
That being said, we all make mistakes. There's a rule of thumb that states the spoken or written sentence that corrects another's error usually contains an error of its own.
Not all of us are natural born writers, not of all of us speak English as our first language but every single person has an opinion and they should be given the opportunity to voice that opinion without being forced to submit to an editor. Same goes for the mentor program---it's extremely helpful, but it should never be mandatory.
I like the suggestion of having the option to submit to an editor if someone would like. This would solve two problems; the first: that errors in live reviews would occur less and the second: there would be more in the pool for editors to proofread.
But, I'm pretty willing to bet if we all ran our reviews through a word processor at least once, a large portion of mistakes would be caught before the author submitted the review. less
That being said, we all make mistakes. There's a rule of thumb that states the spoken or written sentence that corrects another's error usually contains an error of its own.
Not all of us are natural born writers, not of all of us speak English as our first language but every single person has an opinion and they should be given the opportunity to voice that opinion without being forced to submit to an editor. Same goes for the mentor program---it's extremely helpful, but it should never be mandatory.
I like the suggestion of having the option to submit to an editor if someone would like. This would solve two problems; the first: that errors in live reviews would occur less and the second: there would be more in the pool for editors to proofread.
But, I'm pretty willing to bet if we all ran our reviews through a word processor at least once, a large portion of mistakes would be caught before the author submitted the review. less
07/15/2012
I think it would be a good option. Sometimes I miss little mistakes and it's nice to have someone else catch them before it gets published, but I wouldn't make it mandatory for every review to get proofread.
07/16/2012
I think that they should because I have seen reviews from reviewers with a higher ranking and with a lot of reviews that are riddled with errors or the review lacks substance.
Though, for the sake of free choice, I suppose it is more fair to have just the option available and not make it necessary.
Though, for the sake of free choice, I suppose it is more fair to have just the option available and not make it necessary.
07/16/2012
I think they should def have the option.
07/21/2012
I would at least like the option. I can articulate what I want to say, but it does not always come out in my writing the way it is intended to be.
07/21/2012
I think every review should be edited because the deadline for a review to be edited in the system is 3 days after an editor has accepted it. It's really annoying to see grammatical and spelling errors in a great review.
11/08/2012
I think having an option at a higher rank would be a good idea.
11/08/2012
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Originally posted by
Ms. N
I think it would be good if all the editors let people know what edits they make to their reviews (like Antipova does). Otherwise, how are people supposed to learn from their mistakes? If they don't know what they are doing wrong, how are they
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I think it would be good if all the editors let people know what edits they make to their reviews (like Antipova does). Otherwise, how are people supposed to learn from their mistakes? If they don't know what they are doing wrong, how are they going to be able to fix their own reviews once they reach the level where they are on their own? How will they know they have even made mistakes in the past?
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11/08/2012
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I have to totally agree. I just read a handful of reviews that did not go through an editor by high ranking EF'ers and the grammar, spelling and blatant lack of proofreading and overall carelessness (ie: not capitalizing "i") is just embarrassing. These should never have been published in their current state and are not flattering to the reviewer. These were not just one or two little things here and there that would be hard to catch.
Originally posted by
CrystaCat
I think all post should have corrections made like spelling and grammar issues. It should not matter if you are at the top of the to-dumb pole or the bottom. A mistake is a mistake. Honestly the better it looks the smarter you look.
11/09/2012
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I think that each higher ranked reviewer should be able to make the choice of proofreading on their own or submitting it to someone else to proofread. Personally I think I would always send it off to be proofread just to cover my ass
Originally posted by
Ms. N
When we get to a certain point level, our reviews no longer go through the proofreading process, and we are expected to proofread for ourselves. It seems likely, however, that this magic number does not automatically make everyone capable of
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When we get to a certain point level, our reviews no longer go through the proofreading process, and we are expected to proofread for ourselves. It seems likely, however, that this magic number does not automatically make everyone capable of catching and correcting their own grammar and typographical errors. Should ALL reviews go through the proofreading process, regardless of a person's rank?
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11/09/2012
Higher ranked reviewers should be able to choose whether or not to have their reviews proofread by an editor.
11/11/2012
I think they should all go through the proof read process. Not everyone is good at writing even if they do practice.
11/11/2012
It's always helpful to have a second pair of eyes take a look. I just started in the editing rotation, and I have to wonder if some people ever learn to edit their own reviews. There really isn't really much feedback in the process. If a reviewer doesn't compare the original to the edited version they may not even be learning their mistakes. (or care) Since the reviews have been edited by someone else, it's not going to lower their rating because no one else sees the original state of their review. I'm not sure how common it is for editors to message the reviewer with feedback.
11/11/2012
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That's the thing, currently there is nothing in place to track the errors. It's only the editor and the reviewer that has any ideas of the amount of corrections that were needed.
Originally posted by
indiglo
I think that, rather than base your need for having a proofreader on rank, it should be based on how many errors are generally in your reviews. But then again, I see a lot of reviews that have been proofread that still come out with tons of
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I think that, rather than base your need for having a proofreader on rank, it should be based on how many errors are generally in your reviews. But then again, I see a lot of reviews that have been proofread that still come out with tons of mistakes.
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I think most reviews should go through proofreading, unless the person has consistently submitted many reviews that needed no corrections. less
11/11/2012
I think having a choice is always nice. I am a new 5.6 and just got done with a review. I also just finished a class. I feel good in what I have learned. However, not being totally confident yet I would like to have a choice.
11/11/2012
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I agree. I just read a review by an experienced reviewer and I don't think they ever took an English class based on the number of mistakes, misspellings, bad grammar, run on sentences and not even proofreading stuff like two words run together. Totally careless and sloppy.
Originally posted by
Hubby80
I think they should all go through the proof read process. Not everyone is good at writing even if they do practice.
Storm Elliott is also right. I am not in the editing program (yet) and don't know the process, but I doubt people will learn (or care) from their mistakes. Some of these reviews shouldn't see the light of day in their current state. I guess that is ultimately up to EF.
Why bother with an editing program at all, if it is not all-inclusive and you have high ranking writers not proofreading their own work?
If I made a mistake(s), I would want it pointed out and corrected.
11/12/2012
Once someone has proven themselves able to write a review without mistakes, they should be able to choose whether or not they want their reviews to be edited. But if their reviews are rife with errors, that should be reported and their privilege should be revoked.
11/24/2012
the option would be great
12/04/2012
The problem is, I notice editors aren't really useful; I've seen reviews riddled with errors even going through an editor and that makes me feel that going through a proofreader really wont help.
12/04/2012
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This would be great. Even as an experienced writer, you don't always see your own typos just because you've looked at your own piece of writing so much. It's good to have another pair of eyes look at it before having to publish.
Originally posted by
Silverdrop
I think it would be nice to have the option 'Submit to editor' or 'Post review'. I don't think having every review be proofread is necessary.
02/09/2013
More often than not, I've had my editors "fix" my spelling and grammar from correct to incorrect. For example: "Its head is firm" becomes "It's head is firm" after an editor goes through. I've also gotten things like "Fun Factory's" to "Fun Factories." I've also had totally subjective things changed. On my latest review I had the editor try to change "a match made in the stars" (a pun for the Leo dildo, also the name of a constellation) to "a match made in Heaven."
Almost every review I write, I must go back after it has been published and fix the editor's mistakes.
Almost every review I write, I must go back after it has been published and fix the editor's mistakes.
02/09/2013
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This is unfortunate, and in my opinion, overstepping the role of an editor.
Originally posted by
Llewey
More often than not, I've had my editors "fix" my spelling and grammar from correct to incorrect. For example: "Its head is firm" becomes "It's head is firm" after an editor goes through. I've also gotten
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More often than not, I've had my editors "fix" my spelling and grammar from correct to incorrect. For example: "Its head is firm" becomes "It's head is firm" after an editor goes through. I've also gotten things like "Fun Factory's" to "Fun Factories." I've also had totally subjective things changed. On my latest review I had the editor try to change "a match made in the stars" (a pun for the Leo dildo, also the name of a constellation) to "a match made in Heaven."
Almost every review I write, I must go back after it has been published and fix the editor's mistakes. less
Almost every review I write, I must go back after it has been published and fix the editor's mistakes. less
02/09/2013
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Sorry if I seemed overly-negative. I loved the mentor program and learned a lot from it. But since I'm good at writing reviews and grammar at this point, I feel having an editor is mostly superfluous. I think after a certain point it should become optional.
Originally posted by
LikeSunshineDust
This is unfortunate, and in my opinion, overstepping the role of an editor.
02/09/2013