Poll 01: How would you feel about a deaf person (unable to rate bees) reviewing a vibrator on Eden?

Contributor: namelesschaos namelesschaos
Ok, here is my question how would you feel about a deaf person reviewing vibrators on Eden. While this may seem like a silly question, I ask because a required portion of every review is how loud the toy is (bees). Since a deaf person couldn’t review that aspect of a toy it made me want to put it to a poll.
Answers (private voting - your screen name will NOT appear in the results):
It is fine as long as they explain they could not review that aspect of the toy.
264
It is fine as long as they have someone else (partner, friend) review that aspect of the toy for them.
40
It is fine as long as they comment that other review have found it loud, quiet etc.
32
It is fine, but I may have to vote that review less useful for not having that information
4
It is unacceptable
1
Other
6
Total votes: 347 (280 voters)
Poll is closed
03/12/2011
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Contributor: namelesschaos namelesschaos
Also ooopps that "poll #1" wasn't supposed to be part of the title I coped it in by accident from a word file. My brain wrote it out like that for some reason
03/12/2011
Contributor: csweatc csweatc
Really? They could fib on that portion of the review for all I care.
03/12/2011
Contributor: Gunsmoke Gunsmoke
I'm OK with it - there are enough reviewers that as long as the rest of the content is useful, the opinions would still be valid.

I vote it's OK.
03/12/2011
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
I think so long as they mention that they can't hear the vibrations to know how loud they are, it's ok. It'd of course be helpful if somebody else could tell them about how loud it was so they could try and describe that for us, but I wouldn't vote them any less for not being able to hear it.
03/12/2011
Contributor: Redboxbaby Redboxbaby
I have no issue with it. It would be helpful to know why they didn't include it. They could say how other quiet/loud reviewers found it also.

Really though if the rest of the review is interesting and helpful, I really could care less about how loud something is.
03/12/2011
Contributor: 0 0
I think then it would be reasonable for them to make a mention in the review and then mark that section "n/a." I'd love to see if they had a different point of view since they would "hear" it differently from the other reviewers
03/12/2011
Contributor: DeliciousSurprise DeliciousSurprise
I wouldn't have a problem with it, at all, if they gave the heads up that they aren't rating that portion because they cannot hear it.

On the other hand, they might not actually want to disclose their differently abled status.
03/12/2011
Contributor: lucymalfoy lucymalfoy
There are plenty of other aspects of sex toys that I care about in reviews than the sound.
03/13/2011
Contributor: cobiffle cobiffle
I would not matter at all because if sound really is a problem for a couple, then they can always rely on other reviews for the sound.
03/13/2011
Contributor: zeebot zeebot
Sound is just one aspect, they could still do an awesome review. If they wanted they could get a friend to rate the sound level, but there's always other reviews, so that's not entirely necessary.
03/13/2011
Contributor: Kindred Kindred
I think it would be fine if they disclosed the fact that they were not able to rate it. With a scale of 1-5, I find there is a fair amount of variability on opinion regarding loudness already anyway.
03/13/2011
Contributor: Solar Ray Solar Ray
Yep... not a problem at all. Everyone has a valid point of view no matter if they are deaf/blind etc.
03/13/2011
Contributor: ShadowKitten ShadowKitten
No problem at all! being able to feel the vibrations is more important than noise level in my opinion except for toys you KNOW are going to be pretty loud, like the Hitachi for example.
03/13/2011
Contributor: Crystal1 Crystal1
As long as they gave a thoughtful review otherwise, I think it's fine. Mentioning that they aren't able to review that particular aspect would be nice so that every commenter isn't asking "But how loud is it?"
03/13/2011
Contributor: jfree jfree
Long as everything else is solid, I don't mind.
03/13/2011
Contributor: indiglo indiglo
I wouldn't care at all. I don't usually even worry about the "bees" when I'm picking out toys.
03/13/2011
Contributor: *Ashley* *Ashley*
I don't mind at all.
I may help others if they explain that they can't review that aspect of it.
03/15/2011
Contributor: Pleasure Piratess Pleasure Piratess
Wouldn't bother me a bit. All their opinions are still valid and most toys end up with more than one review anyway.
03/16/2011
Contributor: Naughty Student Naughty Student
I never thought about that! I wouldn't mind at all. I would agree with the others on how I would go about it if I was deaf. I have an aunt who is deaf and mute. I wouldn't want her to be excluded on one more thing bcs of her disability.
03/16/2011
Contributor: skunked skunked
Does not matter at all, whatsoever
03/18/2011
Contributor: oopsy oopsy
It would be really unfair to say that deaf people could not review something based on that situation. Just vote what the average is or have someone else do it!
03/29/2011
Contributor: Joie de Cherresse Joie de Cherresse
I don't see it an issue at all really.
03/29/2011
Contributor: gone77 gone77
Like pretty much everyone else has said, I wouldn't mind at all as long as they stated that they were unable to rate that part of the toy. It's basically a non-issue to me.
04/05/2011
Contributor: Jobthingy Jobthingy
Hearing impairment (or any impairment for that matter) should ever stop someone from reviewing.
04/05/2011
Contributor: P'Gell P'Gell
Quote:
Originally posted by csweatc
Really? They could fib on that portion of the review for all I care.
I don't agree. I think they should mention that they can't hear the vibrations.

Those of us with children or who live in dorm situations or with parents have to have quiet toys. I'd be pissed off if someone "fibbed" and said the Bee was a 1 and it was a 5, meaning I couldn't then use a toy after I bought it. I don't need my kids knowing when their father and I are getting it on by hearing a loud buzzing vibrator, which I bought thinking it was quiet.

It's really never OK to fib in a review. There's nothing wrong with simply being honest about saying one can't hear the sound the toy makes.

I'm also not cool with "going along with what everyone else says." The reason we write reviews is to state our OWN opinions, simply truthfully stating that the reviewer can't hear the toy is totally acceptable. There's no reason to lie or "go along with everyone else" either.
04/06/2011
Contributor: P'Gell P'Gell
Quote:
Originally posted by ShadowKitten
No problem at all! being able to feel the vibrations is more important than noise level in my opinion except for toys you KNOW are going to be pretty loud, like the Hitachi for example.
Funny, because I bought my Hitachi a long time ago, long before I joined Eden. I had NO idea that it was loud. I hadn't read properly written reviews, and I bought it at the beginning of summer and basically didn't use it for 3 months, because kids were home nearly all the time.

Some of us really need to know the noise a toy makes, we shouldn't assume anyone knows anything about a toy before they have used it, really.

More than a few times, I've decided not to purchase a toy, based on it's level of noise from a review. So, it does make a difference to a lot of people.

But, like I said, if a hearing impaired reviewer was honest about the issue, it would be fine.
04/06/2011
Contributor: amandaco2011 amandaco2011
Loudness is a very small portion of what makes a toy as long as the person provides a good review for the rest of it I have no problems.
04/19/2011
Contributor: Howells Howells
Interesting question, I believe it should be great because the readers of the review can be deaf to and they'll find the review especially useful because they already have something in common. I also heard that if you lose one sense or don't have it the others become stronger.
04/21/2011
Contributor: ashaxmarie ashaxmarie
Quote:
Originally posted by namelesschaos
Ok, here is my question how would you feel about a deaf person reviewing vibrators on Eden. While this may seem like a silly question, I ask because a required portion of every review is how loud the toy is (bees). Since a deaf person couldn’t review ... more
as a person with a disability, i think it's really important that pwd are able to participate on ef. i think it's TOTALLY acceptable for a deaf person to review vibrators, or for anyone else to review anything even if their disability/access needs don't match up with every aspect of the review, as long as they are honest in the review about what info they're unable to provide.
05/05/2011