Editors - Update on Task Market...

Contributor: Ms. N Ms. N
Current number of reviews in the TM, by day...

June 11th - 11 reviews
June 12th - 21 reviews
June 13th - 27 reviews
June 14th - 27 reviews
June 15th - 21 reviews
June 16th - 19 reviews
June 17th - 27 reviews
June 18th - 11 reviews

Thank you to all the editors who are helping with the backlog by taking the older reviews first. Older reviews = backlog. The reviewers who have been waiting all week for their reviews to be published appreciate your work to take care of the situation.

Those of you taking TWO or THREE 400 point reviews - That's not the backlog. Knock it off. I am not calling you out publicly - yet. I am keeping my eye on you though. If you only want to be an editor for the points, you are not in it for the right reason. Work on the BACKLOG!
06/18/2013
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Contributor: charmedtomeetyou charmedtomeetyou
Quote:
Originally posted by Ms. N
Current number of reviews in the TM, by day...

June 11th - 11 reviews
June 12th - 21 reviews
June 13th - 27 reviews
June 14th - 27 reviews
June 15th - 21 reviews
June 16th - 19 reviews
June 17th - 27 reviews
June 18th - 11 ... more
Don't slap my wrist! hehe!

I've been working on the backlog!
06/18/2013
Contributor: Ms. N Ms. N
Quote:
Originally posted by charmedtomeetyou
Don't slap my wrist! hehe!

I've been working on the backlog!
I know you have, dear! Believe me, I know who is doing what
06/18/2013
Contributor: PropertyOfPotter PropertyOfPotter
Grabbed three from the 11th just now!

There are now only 4 left from that day!
06/18/2013
Contributor: Ms. N Ms. N
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Originally posted by PropertyOfPotter
Grabbed three from the 11th just now!

There are now only 4 left from that day!
YOU are fabulous! Thank you!
06/18/2013
Contributor: Ms. N Ms. N
June 12th - 14
June 13th - 25
June 14th - 27
June 15th - 21
June 16th - 19
June 17th - 26
June 18th - 7
06/18/2013
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
It has always been a precedent here at EF for editors to run their choices as they see fit. If there is a true problem then Stormy will deal with it. There's no need or even a real place on the forums for "calling anyone out". That is considered to be an unfriendly practice and has always been frowned on.

There are plenty of editors now and plenty of points to go 'round. Let's just keep working on the backlog and be nice to each other.
06/18/2013
Contributor: Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
It has always been a precedent here at EF for editors to run their choices as they see fit. If there is a true problem then Stormy will deal with it. There's no need or even a real place on the forums for "calling anyone out". That is ... more
Thanks, Airen. I just saw this post...


Considering the situation at hand, 149 tasks in the market with a backlog spanning six days is not that bad. And editors have always been free to pick their tasks. Some just like the layout of the extended better as they tend to be easier to proof read.
06/18/2013
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
Quote:
Originally posted by Ansley
Thanks, Airen. I just saw this post...


Considering the situation at hand, 149 tasks in the market with a backlog spanning six days is not that bad. And editors have always been free to pick their tasks. Some just like the layout of the ... more
Aren't we allowed a two week turnaround on reviews? Or is that not the case anymore? We don't want to flood the feed and not allow people to have their reviews featured for at least a few days.
06/18/2013
Contributor: Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
Aren't we allowed a two week turnaround on reviews? Or is that not the case anymore? We don't want to flood the feed and not allow people to have their reviews featured for at least a few days.
Right, we have two weeks to get things published.
06/18/2013
Contributor: Ms. N Ms. N
Quote:
Originally posted by Airen Wolf
It has always been a precedent here at EF for editors to run their choices as they see fit. If there is a true problem then Stormy will deal with it. There's no need or even a real place on the forums for "calling anyone out". That is ... more
Call out may have been a poor choice of words, but still, it is not right to leave people hanging in order to grab more points. When I see people grab three reviews from the current day when there are over 100 reviews that have been posted ahead of them, I have to say something is wrong.
06/18/2013
Contributor: charmedtomeetyou charmedtomeetyou
Quote:
Originally posted by Airen Wolf
Aren't we allowed a two week turnaround on reviews? Or is that not the case anymore? We don't want to flood the feed and not allow people to have their reviews featured for at least a few days.
I will say that I was bummed to have my 100th review buried under all the backlog....even if I'm excited to clear some of it out!
06/18/2013
Contributor: Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by charmedtomeetyou
I will say that I was bummed to have my 100th review buried under all the backlog....even if I'm excited to clear some of it out!
That would most likely be my fault - I pushed about forty reviews out yesterday afternoon.
06/18/2013
Contributor: Ms. N Ms. N
Quote:
Originally posted by Airen Wolf
Aren't we allowed a two week turnaround on reviews? Or is that not the case anymore? We don't want to flood the feed and not allow people to have their reviews featured for at least a few days.
If we want reviews featured for a few days, the community page is going to have to be changed, or the points value for reviews is going to have to drop again. Currently, the format shows 60 reviews. If there are 20-30 reviews posted each day, that would be two to three days' worth of reviews. If those stay visible for three days (a few), there will be 60-90 reviews waiting to be featured.

Yes, we have two weeks, but is it right for some reviewers to have to wait two weeks to be published while others have their reviews posted within the hour, not because they are any better, but because they chose a format that earns the editor more points?

I am just asking for a bit of courtesy on the behalf of the reviewers.
06/18/2013
Contributor: ImaGodiva ImaGodiva
Quote:
Originally posted by Airen Wolf
It has always been a precedent here at EF for editors to run their choices as they see fit. If there is a true problem then Stormy will deal with it. There's no need or even a real place on the forums for "calling anyone out". That is ... more
I'm uncomfortable with this too, especially the threatening tone and having one EF contributor "keeping track" of other equal peers.I think this type of thing should be left to admin (Stormy), or someone assigned the job by admin.

Not meaning any offense, Ms. N, I know you're just trying to solve the problem.
06/18/2013
Contributor: Ms. N Ms. N
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Originally posted by ImaGodiva
I'm uncomfortable with this too, especially the threatening tone and having one EF contributor "keeping track" of other equal peers.I think this type of thing should be left to admin (Stormy), or someone assigned the job by ... more
I have had other editors complaining to me about the situation, and I have spoken to Stormy about this issue several times in the past few days. I fully apologize if anyone saw this as threatening (which is funny, as I am about the least threatening person in the world). It was only meant to call attention to the problem. Again, I am sorry to anyone offended, and ImaGodiva, I apologize to you personally.
06/18/2013
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
Quote:
Originally posted by Ms. N
If we want reviews featured for a few days, the community page is going to have to be changed, or the points value for reviews is going to have to drop again. Currently, the format shows 60 reviews. If there are 20-30 reviews posted each day, that ... more
Asking is perfectly fine but threatening action is not. If we have two weeks in which to turn around a review and publish it then it will get published in two weeks. Let the greedy ones get their points...they will be rotated out in a few weeks anyhow. If it really becomes an issue then Stormy will take care of the problem.

I know it's frustrating but it's also the nature of the human beast! I jumped on board and make no mistake I am taking care of the oldest reviews first. It may only be 3 a day but there are reasons that this is the limit beyond making sure that people don't hog up all the points.

The community appreciates your hard work, we truly do!
06/18/2013
Contributor: Ms. N Ms. N
As it happens, I do have an email from Sammi, the former admin of the editing program, dated 10/28/12. To quote:

Hi all,

Just a reminder - please take older reviews first from the market. The ones that show up on the top of the list have been there the longest, and really should get edited first.

Thanks!
Sammi



So yes, this is a precedent.
06/18/2013
Contributor: Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by Ms. N
I have had other editors complaining to me about the situation, and I have spoken to Stormy about this issue several times in the past few days. I fully apologize if anyone saw this as threatening (which is funny, as I am about the least threatening ... more
Sometimes complaining is just that - complaining.

Yes, we have talked about it. I cannot up the limit of reviews per person per day as it is a programming change and altering the points system is a no-go as well. So, here we are.
06/18/2013
Contributor: ImaGodiva ImaGodiva
Quote:
Originally posted by Ms. N
I have had other editors complaining to me about the situation, and I have spoken to Stormy about this issue several times in the past few days. I fully apologize if anyone saw this as threatening (which is funny, as I am about the least threatening ... more
I appreciate the apology, thank you, although it is somewhat unnecessary as I was not feeling personally threatened. But saying you're keeping track of what people are doing and will publicly call them out is a threat, and there are editors, I'm sure, who haven't even read this thread and have had no official direction to take the oldest reviews first, who would be shocked to be the focus of an "outing" campaign.

Saying "Hey friends, let's take the oldest reviews because it makes sense" and leaving it at that is not threatening.

Saying "Do this, and there will be repercussions if you don't, and I'm keeping track of what you're all doing" could be seen as threatening, IMHO, and is out of line even from a respected non-threatening-type of peer, with the best of intentions, going the extra mile to try to solve a legitimate problem.
06/18/2013
Contributor: charmedtomeetyou charmedtomeetyou
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Originally posted by Ansley
That would most likely be my fault - I pushed about forty reviews out yesterday afternoon.
Oh well, it happens!

I'm sure it will get traffic in time!

I'm glad you got a lot of reviews published so they aren't clogging things up!
06/18/2013
Contributor: PropertyOfPotter PropertyOfPotter
Those of us that were recently added, were ONLY added because things got so backed up, I would think that since we have the privilege of editing, that we would be focusing on getting the oldest reviews taken care of first. Granted, things aren't terribly far behind, but that's not the point.

We all should take a moment and remember back when our rank was lower and we had to wait for our reviews to be edited. It was HARD to wait because it was so exciting! Let's just try to keep focusing on getting the oldest reviews published first, and feel confident that we're doing what we should. I sure am enjoying being able to help!
06/18/2013
Contributor: SMichelle SMichelle
Quote:
Originally posted by ImaGodiva
I'm uncomfortable with this too, especially the threatening tone and having one EF contributor "keeping track" of other equal peers.I think this type of thing should be left to admin (Stormy), or someone assigned the job by ... more
I, too, felt very uncomfortable reading this post. The tone of it did not sit right with me at all. First of all, it's being said that you're going to call out people. Which... I don't think is really your place. I mean, if you were an admin, or head of the editing program, then fine. And, maybe you are. But I was under the impression that you were, like the rest of us, another contributor. Secondly, saying that you are "keeping an eye" on the other editors... well, I'll be honest, that just sounds a little creepy.

On top of that, it seems like you are implying that some editors are simply point farmers. Which also does not seem like it's your place to say. As Stormy herself said, sometimes people take the extended review ones because they're easier to edit. I will admit that I prefer the extended format when I edit, as I can do it in pieces with ease. Edit a little here, save that section, walk away for awhile, come back and do a little more... that sort of thing. That's not to say that I wait around for an extended format review to appear in the task market, or that I will not edit a standard format review.

I know that you didn't mean it to seem that way, Ms. N. However, it seems like a post of this sort would've been better posted by Stormy, if she thought it were an issue. As Stormy has posted here that, yes, we have two weeks to get reviews published... AND that editors have always been able to choose which reviews they edit... well, it does not seem that there is really an issue.

(whoops, this post wasn't directed at ImaGodiva -- other than to say that I was in agreement.)
06/18/2013
Contributor: Cinnyree Cinnyree
not an editor here nor could I ever be but my suggestion would be a overly friendly private message to the ones doing wrong to say "I know that you are new to the system but could you at least try to do two back logs and one new review so we can make sure nothing stays past the 2 weeks" give and take
06/18/2013
Contributor: MrWill MrWill
I was one of the recent additions, and I don't think I've even seen an extended review yet. At the moment, I'm caught between a rock and a hard place with what I think may be a case of English as a second language.

It was the first review I took this morning, and I'm not sure what to do with it. The contributor seems to have tried, but I don't know that it even qualifies as editing as there are parts of the review that aren't even understandable.


Advice anyone?
06/18/2013
Contributor: SMichelle SMichelle
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Originally posted by MrWill
I was one of the recent additions, and I don't think I've even seen an extended review yet. At the moment, I'm caught between a rock and a hard place with what I think may be a case of English as a second language.

It was the first ... more
I would send it back to the writer.
06/18/2013
Contributor: MrWill MrWill
Quote:
Originally posted by SMichelle
I would send it back to the writer.
That's what I've done for now, but until they come back.. I'm stuck on that review, which means I can't knock out 2 more of the backlog.
06/18/2013
Contributor: ImaGodiva ImaGodiva
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Originally posted by MrWill
That's what I've done for now, but until they come back.. I'm stuck on that review, which means I can't knock out 2 more of the backlog.
MrWill, I just sent you a message about this.
06/18/2013
Contributor: PassionCpl PassionCpl
Quote:
Originally posted by PropertyOfPotter
Those of us that were recently added, were ONLY added because things got so backed up, I would think that since we have the privilege of editing, that we would be focusing on getting the oldest reviews taken care of first. Granted, things aren't ... more
Those of us that were recently added, were ONLY added because things got so backed up, I would think that since we have the privilege of editing, that we would be focusing on getting the oldest reviews taken care of first. Granted, things aren't terribly far behind, but that's not the point.

I agree with that. And - this is not aimed at any individual - I think the newly added editors are the ones who should be concentrating on the backlog since that's the reason they/you were brought in. I know most are, I'm just saying.

The rest of us should be able to edit whatever we choose while hopefully not ignoring the backlog. After all, not only we were still doing our 3 edits per day during Amnesty Week when the reviews were just starting to pile up, but some of us have edited every single day (subject to 'real life' getting in the way) rather than applying for the rotation then not doing anything. I've been taking... well never mind, that should be MY business. I've been doing 3 edits per day and would do more besides those if I could, even for free to help with the older ones.
06/19/2013
Contributor: PropertyOfPotter PropertyOfPotter
Quote:
Originally posted by PassionCpl
Those of us that were recently added, were ONLY added because things got so backed up, I would think that since we have the privilege of editing, that we would be focusing on getting the oldest reviews taken care of first. Granted, things aren't ... more
I totally agree and I hope that resonated through what I was saying.
06/19/2013