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Contributor: Sera Sera
I'm kind of in between on opinions, but I voted that it wasn't fair.

I do think that it would be an excellent idea for the benefit of the community. Some of my old reviews are really not useful at all and if they were deleted I wouldn't mind. I want to benefit the community, and Eden Fantasys for all of the great things its done for me, not put up low quality reviews, though.

I do however think that because of people being downvoted, it wouldn't be fair, even if the Extremely Useful Votes outweighed the Not Useful At All. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I retaliated at a reviewer out of spite because my feelings were hurt over something completely irrelevant and immaturely I voted Not Useful at all. I feel horrible about this and if their review were deleted because of me...That would not be fair at all!
11/17/2010
Contributor: Penguin Penguin
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Originally posted by Sera
I'm kind of in between on opinions, but I voted that it wasn't fair.

I do think that it would be an excellent idea for the benefit of the community. Some of my old reviews are really not useful at all and if they were deleted I ... more
Maybe they could then be approved for being deleted by an admin like the recent reviews that only contain links and no info at all.
11/17/2010
Contributor: Sera Sera
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Originally posted by Penguin
Maybe they could then be approved for being deleted by an admin like the recent reviews that only contain links and no info at all.
What do you mean exactly? I'm curious.
11/17/2010
Contributor: ToyGeek ToyGeek
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Originally posted by Sera
What do you mean exactly? I'm curious.
Someone posted a whole bunch of reviews tonight that contain no text at all, just pasted links. If you take a look at today's reviews, you'll find them pretty easily.
11/18/2010
Contributor: Shellz31 Shellz31
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Originally posted by ToyGeek
Someone posted a whole bunch of reviews tonight that contain no text at all, just pasted links. If you take a look at today's reviews, you'll find them pretty easily.
I saw them! Most frustrating to read. They don't look genuine to me. One of the reviews is just all URLs.
You can see when someone is truely making an effort to write a review.
But when ya come across some where it looks like the person is just doing it to score free toys, it annoys me. Eden is going out of their way to treat the 'genuine' reviewers and some abuse that fact. I don't want the few to ruin it for the rest of us.

Wonder if anyone has placed a complaint cause people that are just out to score whatever they can for free should be banned.
11/18/2010
Contributor: Trashley Trashley
This might be a stupid question, but how many "Not Useful" votes would it need to have to be taken down? Or would it be by proportion? Like percent votes Not Useful would have to outweigh all others by an 80% majority or something?
11/18/2010
Contributor: Sir Sir
I had one of my reviews rated "not useful at all." This person rated Carrie Ann's, Lauren's, and a few others reviews similarly.

I would say that it is not fair to delete a review if it isn't helpful, unless it's spam or is noticeably fake (like where people call trays that are plastic rubber). Those are the only reviews that should be taken down, because after all, these are user reviews. People have a right to review things on the site that were theres, no matter how bad the review is.
11/18/2010
Contributor: KnK KnK
I voted before reading. Now, I'm not so sure about my vote. I think that the EF staff makes a lot of good points
11/30/2010
Contributor: MR Chickhabit MR Chickhabit
im for this lauren, i like the idea of freeing up toys for review even if it means killing off a few bad reviews. if people are worried about losing their rating from lost reviews, what about eden ignoring any rating loss from the deletion? it isnt going to hurt anybody that way...well maybe the bad reviewer's feelings but cmon, they need to work harder on their reviews and what better way to tell them?
12/06/2010
Contributor: Bunnycups Bunnycups
I don't want to vote. I can see why you'd want to delete reviews that aren't useful at all, but what if someone really put effort into that review? It would be bad enough to receive not useful at all votes. To have your review deleted on top of that could make someone give up on review writing. I'm not going to lie, I would be hurt if I wrote a review and it was deleted.
12/06/2010
Contributor: Airekah Airekah
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Originally posted by cherryredhead88
That is immature and ridiculous. This is an adult community and I just can't believe that someone would actually down vote out of spite. Get it together people! :|
this is what I was thinking.
12/07/2010
Contributor: J's Alley J's Alley
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Originally posted by MR Chickhabit
im for this lauren, i like the idea of freeing up toys for review even if it means killing off a few bad reviews. if people are worried about losing their rating from lost reviews, what about eden ignoring any rating loss from the deletion? it isnt ... more
As they mentioned before, those items can actually still be reviewed. If the reviews on them are less than useful we can still request the item. Truthfully, you can request the item even if the review is Extremely Useful. Sometimes two perspectives can be a huge deal. IE: An item got one star, but only has one review...maybe a second review would be good to give the item another go so EF can see if it is worth selling.
12/07/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Originally posted by cherryredhead88
That is immature and ridiculous. This is an adult community and I just can't believe that someone would actually down vote out of spite. Get it together people! :|
It totally is.
12/07/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Originally posted by Trashley
This might be a stupid question, but how many "Not Useful" votes would it need to have to be taken down? Or would it be by proportion? Like percent votes Not Useful would have to outweigh all others by an 80% majority or something?
When I wrote this originally, it would be if it was still overall not useful at all after a year, so...this would have meant either of the two things you mentioned. It wouldn't matter.
12/07/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Originally posted by Sir
I had one of my reviews rated "not useful at all." This person rated Carrie Ann's, Lauren's, and a few others reviews similarly.

I would say that it is not fair to delete a review if it isn't helpful, unless it's spam ... more
I totally agree. That is why I said after a year. They'd be up for that time.

I'm sorry about that voter. I don't look at my votes much anymore. I had not noticed.
12/07/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Originally posted by MR Chickhabit
im for this lauren, i like the idea of freeing up toys for review even if it means killing off a few bad reviews. if people are worried about losing their rating from lost reviews, what about eden ignoring any rating loss from the deletion? it isnt ... more
My goal when I originally posted this was not to free up items, there are more than PLENTY of those. It was to improve the overall usefulness and quality of review on EF and I think the recent proofreading program will help with this tremendously!

I picked up one to edit that was obviously fake. It was a bunch of random words. I flagged it and it never got approved. So the editors like my self and the others will be able to prevent the REALLY "bad"/spam reviews from being published.
12/07/2010
Contributor: LambChop LambChop
I think this is actually a good idea. Maybe not through auto-delete, but at one year a review that is COMPLETELY NOT USEFUL and/or illiterate is um, NOT USEFUL?? Admin could verify that it's REALLY not useful and delete it or give the reviewer a chance to re-write, assuming they are still active.
Unfortunately there ARE people who would down-vote on purpose, but I'd hope that's a rare occurrence.
Lauren is right. Non-useful reviews are helpful to nobody and don't improve the community or the image of EF at all.
12/07/2010
Contributor: Eeyor89 Eeyor89
If it was a new reviewers first review, I think that they should be able to go back and edit it (I say this because I know that after so long reviews can't be edited, I wish I could edit my first one because my mentor noticed an error in it but I can't fix it).

As far as deleting them I don't see it as being fair, but if a reviewer constantly gives "un-usefull" reviews I think that they should be reported to the Eden Staff, and let them deal with it. Ex. give them a warning or something.
12/07/2010
Contributor: Danielle1220 Danielle1220
I think this is a great idea. A year timeframe is more than fair.
12/07/2010
Contributor: darthkitt3n darthkitt3n
I think that would be pretty unfair. A better idea would be just allowing people to resubmit them. I know I have some crappy reviews up from when I started. I would love to redo them, but I don't think it would be fair to completely take them away from me.
12/12/2010
Contributor: Porfiriato Porfiriato
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Originally posted by darthkitt3n
I think that would be pretty unfair. A better idea would be just allowing people to resubmit them. I know I have some crappy reviews up from when I started. I would love to redo them, but I don't think it would be fair to completely take them ... more
I am sympathetic to this argument. I too wish I could go back and edit or delete some of my earliest reviews, but this in not an option.

However, there are some *really* bad reviews out there, and it makes the review program look bad. It does not make much sense to keep reviews that are voted not useful at all.
12/19/2010
Contributor: ToyGeek ToyGeek
Actually, the poor quality reviews (not the spambot url dumps) do serve a purpose. They show customers that these reviews really are written by folks from all walks of life, and not a marketing department somewhere, or some elite group of sexpert bloggers that could never include "people like them" -- whatever that might mean in the back of a customer's mind.
12/19/2010
Contributor: Porfiriato Porfiriato
I agree with you, and i like the egalitarian nature of the review process. I'm talking about the reviews that cannot be understood due to the writing, or really tell us nothing about the product. The point of these reviews is to help people learn about the product.
12/19/2010
Contributor: Gallowraven Gallowraven
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Originally posted by Porfiriato
I agree with you, and i like the egalitarian nature of the review process. I'm talking about the reviews that cannot be understood due to the writing, or really tell us nothing about the product. The point of these reviews is to help people learn ... more
I agree. as well.
02/07/2011
Contributor: TheSinDoll TheSinDoll
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Originally posted by kck
Agreed.

That being said, it would also be nice if people who have voted on a review could re-vote if/when the work is edited. This would allow edited reviews the chance to stay up and provide incentive to actually re-do.
I Love this idea...

I know I've went back and edited some of my first my reviews since I've been here. Hey, I'm learning!
02/08/2011
Contributor: Crystal1 Crystal1
Maybe a "Flag this review for deletion" option? I worry that auto-delete could go terribly wrong.

If the review is genuinely not helpful "ZOMG this made me come so hard my husband thought it was HOT! This is the best thing ever, 3 stars!" and the reviewer is no longer active on the site, deleting probably wouldn't hurt. If the reviewer IS still active on the site (within the last few months, maybe?) it would be nice if they were offered a choice about its deletion.

I do like the idea of giving people a chance to rewrite a not so great review later on.
02/08/2011
Contributor: Sweet-Justice Sweet-Justice
As long ass it was extremely obvious that the review was non helpful and just taking up space I think it would be a good idea.
02/08/2011
Contributor: markeagleone markeagleone
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Originally posted by ~LaUr3n~
This is just a thought I had...

I noticed a review today that was written over a year ago and has been rated as being not useful at all. There are more than just this review that I found today. It is possible that reviews like this could be ... more
I believe that too. I also think the comment section shouldn't be included as a review.
02/10/2011
Contributor: cobiffle cobiffle
This is needed because some are not helpful at all and a waste of time to read.
04/04/2011
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Originally posted by LambChop
I think this is actually a good idea. Maybe not through auto-delete, but at one year a review that is COMPLETELY NOT USEFUL and/or illiterate is um, NOT USEFUL?? Admin could verify that it's REALLY not useful and delete it or give the reviewer a ... more
Having a checks and balances system for this would be necessary due to the purposful down voting. Every review gets and editorial rate anyways, sothat could also play a factor.
04/15/2011