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Contributor: Em & Lo Em & Lo
This week on EMandLO.com, we asked our Wise Guys the following question: “What do most guys think of feminism: a successful movement that’s not needed any more, an eternal campaign of whiney man-haters, or a philosophy that makes the world a better place for both men and women?”

All three of our Wise Guys gave pretty sensitive and insightful answers -- in other words, exactly what we were hoping to hear. But maybe they didn't dare say otherwise. So in this slightly more anonymous forum, tell us what YOU think? We can take it, we swear.
01/03/2012
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Contributor: Cherrylane Cherrylane
Depends on he brand of feminism.
01/03/2012
Contributor: T&A1987 T&A1987
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Originally posted by Cherrylane
Depends on he brand of feminism.
agree. there's the intellectual, egalitarian "equality and fairness for all. this may require taking away some power from men, but it is not just or fair power, like eliminating jim crow laws. those in power will be angry, but it's for the greater good." I like this brand. Then there's those who advocate for a matriarchy "because women are better with power and are just better." There's no evidence behind this and many matriarchy's take/took children, to be raised by the community. It's worth noting that in the instruction manual from Sonic Heroes, Dr. Robotnik is listed as a feminist and romantic.
01/03/2012
Contributor: Ghost Ghost
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Originally posted by T&A1987
agree. there's the intellectual, egalitarian "equality and fairness for all. this may require taking away some power from men, but it is not just or fair power, like eliminating jim crow laws. those in power will be angry, but it's ... more
Thanks for the trivia about Dr. Robotnik!
01/04/2012
Contributor: Illumin8 Illumin8
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Originally posted by Cherrylane
Depends on he brand of feminism.
Agreed. If it's actual feminism, then I think it's great. Unfortunately, though, many of the individuals that I've come into contact with that identify themselves as feminists are extremists and actually hurt the cause of feminism, IMO.
01/04/2012
Contributor: namelesschaos namelesschaos
Considering I just started a site about feminism (and other issues) in gaming link. It quite clear I don't consider feminism to be unnecessary and indeed gaming culture provides a good example of why feminism is still needed. Some examples of the rather blatant sexism, homophobia etc in gamer culture for those unfamiliar with it:

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link (see the comments)
01/04/2012
Contributor: Stinkytofu10 Stinkytofu10
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Originally posted by namelesschaos
Considering I just started a site about feminism (and other issues) in gaming link. It quite clear I don't consider feminism to be unnecessary and indeed gaming culture provides a good example of why feminism is still needed. Some examples of the ... more
Wow I never thought about it that way, great posts and links!
01/04/2012
Contributor: El-Jaro El-Jaro
Feminism, as a word, is like the word "cola". There are lots of different kinds of cola out there. I like some, but others leave a bad taste in my mouth.

I'm all for equal everything (true communist), but I'm against pushing one group down to build another up.
01/04/2012
Contributor: Rawhide Rawhide
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Originally posted by El-Jaro
Feminism, as a word, is like the word "cola". There are lots of different kinds of cola out there. I like some, but others leave a bad taste in my mouth.

I'm all for equal everything (true communist), but I'm against pushing ... more
Well said
01/05/2012
Contributor: Hallmar82 Hallmar82
I don't think much of it. I was born after the 1970's so it doesn't mean as much to me. I follow the Golden Rule when it comes to dealing with anyone. I've seen some women (only one lesbian) who honestly think little of men (ex spelling of womyn). I hope that's not feminism because I would think little of it...
01/05/2012
Contributor: namelesschaos namelesschaos
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Originally posted by Hallmar82
I don't think much of it. I was born after the 1970's so it doesn't mean as much to me. I follow the Golden Rule when it comes to dealing with anyone. I've seen some women (only one lesbian) who honestly think little of men (ex ... more
"I follow the Golden Rule when it comes to dealing with anyone."

I actually find the Golden Rule to be a problematic, I do NOT follow the Golden Rule, and have literally giving a presentation as to why other should also NOT follow the Golden Rule. I do not treat people the way I wish to be treated I treat other people the way they wish to be treated.

This is not semantics it is a fundamental shift in thinking, treating people the way you wish to be treated is easy, you know how you wish to be treated. Treating people the way they wish to treated requires you to listen and acknowledge he other person or group, this is much harder.
01/09/2012
Contributor: Ahatmadeofshoes12 Ahatmadeofshoes12
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Originally posted by T&A1987
agree. there's the intellectual, egalitarian "equality and fairness for all. this may require taking away some power from men, but it is not just or fair power, like eliminating jim crow laws. those in power will be angry, but it's ... more
Women who believe that we should have a matriarchal system are not feminists. This is a bastardization of feminism made by a few extremists and then was exaggerated by conservatives to be a description of all feminists. True feminists believe that men and women are EQUAL and deserve to be treated as such. That is the definition of feminism and it appalls me that people assume feminism is synonymous "man hating" since it is not representative of the vast majority of the movement and its goals. I am a feminist and I believe that men and women should have the same rights. Just as I believe that men should not have greater rights and opportunities then women, women should not have greater rights and opportunities then men.
02/06/2012
Contributor: Mia Fey Mia Fey
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Originally posted by Ahatmadeofshoes12
Women who believe that we should have a matriarchal system are not feminists. This is a bastardization of feminism made by a few extremists and then was exaggerated by conservatives to be a description of all feminists. True feminists believe that ... more
Couldn't have said it better. True feminism is equality for all and it can be a fantastic tool for change in our society. Too many people are scared off by the right wing media definition of "feminism" and it is a shame. I can't tell you how many times I have heard "I'm not a feminist but...." and what they say is a feminist idea in slightly different language. It has become a dirty word when it is the same as any other tool for change, it can be misused and hurt people or it can be an eye opening game changer for human rights.
02/11/2012