Yes! I'm not sure why it's such a huge deal, anyway. People who don't want birth control won't use it, so the insurance won't have to pay for anything. The employees might be paying a bit more than they would have, but I don't think it would make a large difference.
Should comprehensive health insurance include coverage for contraception?
03/26/2012
Yes it should be covered. Birth control pills cost a fortune and I haven't been on them in over 5 years so I can't imagine how much they cost now.
03/27/2012
If a religious institution makes itself into a business, by hiring employees etc, then they should be subject to the same laws as other businesses.
Funny how it all centres around women's health. I don't see any debate about whether unmarried men should be allowed viagra, whether care for liver damage caused by alcoholism should be covered, and all the various other "sins" that affect one's health. No. It's all about keeping down the sluts.
SO glad for the NHS. It's far from perfect and getting worse, but it's better than the shit you Americans put up with.
Funny how it all centres around women's health. I don't see any debate about whether unmarried men should be allowed viagra, whether care for liver damage caused by alcoholism should be covered, and all the various other "sins" that affect one's health. No. It's all about keeping down the sluts.
SO glad for the NHS. It's far from perfect and getting worse, but it's better than the shit you Americans put up with.
03/27/2012
This subject is so touchy. What I dont understand is how the government and insurance agencies want to complain about things like over population and how high medical costs are but many will not cover contraception.
03/27/2012
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I totally agree. Most Americans who are not millionaires or selfish (the "not on MY dime" people) would LOVE National Health.
Originally posted by
Silverdrop
If a religious institution makes itself into a business, by hiring employees etc, then they should be subject to the same laws as other businesses.
Funny how it all centres around women's health. I don't see any debate about whether ... more
Funny how it all centres around women's health. I don't see any debate about whether ... more
If a religious institution makes itself into a business, by hiring employees etc, then they should be subject to the same laws as other businesses.
Funny how it all centres around women's health. I don't see any debate about whether unmarried men should be allowed viagra, whether care for liver damage caused by alcoholism should be covered, and all the various other "sins" that affect one's health. No. It's all about keeping down the sluts.
SO glad for the NHS. It's far from perfect and getting worse, but it's better than the shit you Americans put up with. less
Funny how it all centres around women's health. I don't see any debate about whether unmarried men should be allowed viagra, whether care for liver damage caused by alcoholism should be covered, and all the various other "sins" that affect one's health. No. It's all about keeping down the sluts.
SO glad for the NHS. It's far from perfect and getting worse, but it's better than the shit you Americans put up with. less
Many churches do run businesses. Like I said, if they want to run businesses and not pay taxes (which they don't have to do in the US) then they should have to make sure their entire staff is priests, nuns, and volunteers. They get the perks of running businesses, but they don't have to pay the same prices (like pay tax) or follow the same rules of other businesses.
03/27/2012
Religion has no place in the decisions I make regarding my own body. Health coverage gives men Viagra and the knock-offs, despite having no other medical benefit other then erection.
Birth control pills have been used for over thirty years for a variety of medical issues with women from regulating their cycles when they won't stabilize to acne, PMS, endometriosis, for Polycystic Ovary Syndrome and the list goes on. There are legitimate medical uses for birth control pills yet the corporations and extremist zealots want to reach for every possible thread to control the women in this country. When will it end?! Freedom of religion does not mean freedom of a religion to hold women down.
Reeling it in here. Clearly, I believe all female contraception should be covered. It's my body and it’s my right to use it for medical issues should I need to.
Birth control pills have been used for over thirty years for a variety of medical issues with women from regulating their cycles when they won't stabilize to acne, PMS, endometriosis, for Polycystic Ovary Syndrome and the list goes on. There are legitimate medical uses for birth control pills yet the corporations and extremist zealots want to reach for every possible thread to control the women in this country. When will it end?! Freedom of religion does not mean freedom of a religion to hold women down.
Reeling it in here. Clearly, I believe all female contraception should be covered. It's my body and it’s my right to use it for medical issues should I need to.
03/27/2012
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Exactly. Without BC, a week and a half each month, I would be unable to work. No one would hire someone like that. I need it to function. It is not a luxury for me, no more than my migraine meds.
Originally posted by
glassrose
Religion has no place in the decisions I make regarding my own body. Health coverage gives men Viagra and the knock-offs, despite having no other medical benefit other then erection.
Birth control pills have been used for over thirty years for a ... more
Birth control pills have been used for over thirty years for a ... more
Religion has no place in the decisions I make regarding my own body. Health coverage gives men Viagra and the knock-offs, despite having no other medical benefit other then erection.
Birth control pills have been used for over thirty years for a variety of medical issues with women from regulating their cycles when they won't stabilize to acne, PMS, endometriosis, for Polycystic Ovary Syndrome and the list goes on. There are legitimate medical uses for birth control pills yet the corporations and extremist zealots want to reach for every possible thread to control the women in this country. When will it end?! Freedom of religion does not mean freedom of a religion to hold women down.
Reeling it in here. Clearly, I believe all female contraception should be covered. It's my body and it’s my right to use it for medical issues should I need to. less
Birth control pills have been used for over thirty years for a variety of medical issues with women from regulating their cycles when they won't stabilize to acne, PMS, endometriosis, for Polycystic Ovary Syndrome and the list goes on. There are legitimate medical uses for birth control pills yet the corporations and extremist zealots want to reach for every possible thread to control the women in this country. When will it end?! Freedom of religion does not mean freedom of a religion to hold women down.
Reeling it in here. Clearly, I believe all female contraception should be covered. It's my body and it’s my right to use it for medical issues should I need to. less
03/28/2012
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^ this.
Originally posted by
Ansley
As insurance companies have been pointing out for years, offering coverage nationwide and consistently will reduce the amount of services rendered that go unpaid. A pack of pills, an IUD, a tubal, a vasectomy or even a pack of condoms is by far
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As insurance companies have been pointing out for years, offering coverage nationwide and consistently will reduce the amount of services rendered that go unpaid. A pack of pills, an IUD, a tubal, a vasectomy or even a pack of condoms is by far cheaper than prenatal care and delivery of a child, plus wellness visits and the like.
I think it's an important issue and if any religious organization has an issue with it, that's their own problem. Obama went ahead and gave them an exemption to outright informing workers that it is covered under their health plans and then green-lighted the insurance companies to privately contact women who are elligible to inform them of their options.
When you play games like "what's good for the goose is good for the gander" with a woman's health and her reproductive system, it should really stop at "what's good for the goose". And the gander can go suck a duck. less
I think it's an important issue and if any religious organization has an issue with it, that's their own problem. Obama went ahead and gave them an exemption to outright informing workers that it is covered under their health plans and then green-lighted the insurance companies to privately contact women who are elligible to inform them of their options.
When you play games like "what's good for the goose is good for the gander" with a woman's health and her reproductive system, it should really stop at "what's good for the goose". And the gander can go suck a duck. less
04/08/2012
Everyone has to offer, not everyone has to accept it. The fun fact is, most insurance companies drop the cost of plans that have birth control, since they don't want to pay for children that you don't want. If you don't like it, don't use it.
05/29/2012
Yeah why not everything else is covered.
06/03/2012
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Actually, there are now at least 2 different varieties of birth control pills that cost $4 per pack, and 7 different varieties for $9. There are also several varieties that can be had for less than $25 a month. That's not really bank-breaking. I fully support increased access to birth control, but I also support women having access to all the facts. You have to talk to your doctor about budget alternatives.
Originally posted by
unfulfilled
Yes it should be covered. Birth control pills cost a fortune and I haven't been on them in over 5 years so I can't imagine how much they cost now.
But my main issue with this is that separation of church and state works both ways: the government does not have the right to tell a church how to run itself anymore than a church has the right to tell the government how to run.
06/13/2012
No, you'll utimately pay more for it if it is covered under insurance just like everything else that insurance pays for. Contraception is cheap, prices will go up if health insurance has to pay for it.
06/13/2012
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Absolutely. It's a central part of health care, and absolutely necessary for people who choose it's quality of life. Disallowing it would be terrible for the policy holder, and it would ultimately cost the employer more money.
Originally posted by
Rawhide
This argument is playing out nationally, where do you stand?
07/15/2012
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there are too many people, if you want contraception, you should be able to get it and not worry about the cost!
Originally posted by
Rawhide
This argument is playing out nationally, where do you stand?
07/16/2012
I am still in awe that this is even a debate.
07/18/2012
Absolutely.
07/21/2012
I was put on birth control for non-contraceptive reasons. The truth is, there's lots of reasons girls are put on birth control that are serious health issues. So the churches claiming it's because they don't believe in contraception is irrelevant because birth control is a legitimate non-contraceptive medicine in a lot of casess
07/21/2012
Health insurance providers WANT to. Because pregnancy (as we all know) is EXPENSIVE!
07/23/2012
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Very good points.
Originally posted by
Ansley
As insurance companies have been pointing out for years, offering coverage nationwide and consistently will reduce the amount of services rendered that go unpaid. A pack of pills, an IUD, a tubal, a vasectomy or even a pack of condoms is by far
...
more
As insurance companies have been pointing out for years, offering coverage nationwide and consistently will reduce the amount of services rendered that go unpaid. A pack of pills, an IUD, a tubal, a vasectomy or even a pack of condoms is by far cheaper than prenatal care and delivery of a child, plus wellness visits and the like.
I think it's an important issue and if any religious organization has an issue with it, that's their own problem. Obama went ahead and gave them an exemption to outright informing workers that it is covered under their health plans and then green-lighted the insurance companies to privately contact women who are elligible to inform them of their options.
When you play games like "what's good for the goose is good for the gander" with a woman's health and her reproductive system, it should really stop at "what's good for the goose". And the gander can go suck a duck. less
I think it's an important issue and if any religious organization has an issue with it, that's their own problem. Obama went ahead and gave them an exemption to outright informing workers that it is covered under their health plans and then green-lighted the insurance companies to privately contact women who are elligible to inform them of their options.
When you play games like "what's good for the goose is good for the gander" with a woman's health and her reproductive system, it should really stop at "what's good for the goose". And the gander can go suck a duck. less
07/23/2012
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I like the bit about the goose and the gander.
Originally posted by
Ansley
As insurance companies have been pointing out for years, offering coverage nationwide and consistently will reduce the amount of services rendered that go unpaid. A pack of pills, an IUD, a tubal, a vasectomy or even a pack of condoms is by far
...
more
As insurance companies have been pointing out for years, offering coverage nationwide and consistently will reduce the amount of services rendered that go unpaid. A pack of pills, an IUD, a tubal, a vasectomy or even a pack of condoms is by far cheaper than prenatal care and delivery of a child, plus wellness visits and the like.
I think it's an important issue and if any religious organization has an issue with it, that's their own problem. Obama went ahead and gave them an exemption to outright informing workers that it is covered under their health plans and then green-lighted the insurance companies to privately contact women who are elligible to inform them of their options.
When you play games like "what's good for the goose is good for the gander" with a woman's health and her reproductive system, it should really stop at "what's good for the goose". And the gander can go suck a duck. less
I think it's an important issue and if any religious organization has an issue with it, that's their own problem. Obama went ahead and gave them an exemption to outright informing workers that it is covered under their health plans and then green-lighted the insurance companies to privately contact women who are elligible to inform them of their options.
When you play games like "what's good for the goose is good for the gander" with a woman's health and her reproductive system, it should really stop at "what's good for the goose". And the gander can go suck a duck. less
07/29/2012
Other. I'm not against plans covering contraceptives but neither am I for requiring all plans to cover them. Insurance companies need to make the decision of what is cost effective for them to successfully serve their customers as well as stay in business.
The argument that it's irresponsible for insurance companies to not cover contraceptives (as a form of birth control) is something I strongly disagree with. It's NOT the responsibility of a company to make sure you're protected against pregnancy - it's the responsibility of the INDIVIDUAL. If your insurance plan doesn't cover the contraceptive of your choice then use something that is covered or pay for it out of your pocket. If you have sex without contraception because you can't afford it then how the heck do you think you'll be able to afford raising a child? Talk about not taking responsibility for your actions.
I've personally never had an insurance plan that covered the Pill. I wanted to have sex and wanted the most effective contraceptive so I paid for them myself. Yes, they were expensive but it was the cost of doing business so to speak. Sex was a priority so I made budgeting to pay for my Pill a priority. As expensive as the Pill was, it was a heck of a lot cheaper both emotionally and economically than an unplanned pregnancy!
The argument that it's irresponsible for insurance companies to not cover contraceptives (as a form of birth control) is something I strongly disagree with. It's NOT the responsibility of a company to make sure you're protected against pregnancy - it's the responsibility of the INDIVIDUAL. If your insurance plan doesn't cover the contraceptive of your choice then use something that is covered or pay for it out of your pocket. If you have sex without contraception because you can't afford it then how the heck do you think you'll be able to afford raising a child? Talk about not taking responsibility for your actions.
I've personally never had an insurance plan that covered the Pill. I wanted to have sex and wanted the most effective contraceptive so I paid for them myself. Yes, they were expensive but it was the cost of doing business so to speak. Sex was a priority so I made budgeting to pay for my Pill a priority. As expensive as the Pill was, it was a heck of a lot cheaper both emotionally and economically than an unplanned pregnancy!
08/02/2012
I said yes but I see a basis for certian people opting out
08/12/2012
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Yes. Especially as birthcontrol for women has benefits like preventing cervical cancer, regulating hormones, and ones period. Or even preventing ones period. It has many benefits for ones health other than holding off a pregnancy that could be unwanted.
Originally posted by
Rawhide
This argument is playing out nationally, where do you stand?
08/20/2012
While the male birth control pill is yet to see the light of day in the market, when it does, do you feel that it should be covered by health insurance?
08/21/2012
A person should have the option of choices. That shouldn't be limited by the beliefs of their employer.
08/21/2012
But why is it the government's business what a particular private company does and does not offer? Some insurance companies do cover birth control and do that without a state mandate - if the government would let health insurance compete, surely birth control offerings would become standard, as it's obvious a lot of people care about it being covered.
08/21/2012
yes, my birth control pill are free to me and i'm so glad.
03/27/2013
Yes, for all employers who offer health insurance
03/28/2013
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Exactly! Even without all the other valid arguments, hormonal "contraceptives" are OFTEN prescribed for medical issues, not just for prevention of pregnancy. Therefore, the church-run businesses (how did that happen, anyway?) don't have a leg to stand on with this.
Originally posted by
Chirple
It's also ridiculous to pretend that "contraceptive devices" are only used by people trying to prevent pregnancy.
They have many uses and non-baby-related health benefits.
They have many uses and non-baby-related health benefits.
03/30/2013
absolutely yes. there should be no reason for an employer to deny this service (because I'm sure the insurance company doesn't care that much). If a church-affiliated person believes that contraception is wrong, then don't get a prescription! sheesh.
03/30/2013