But that's a medical reason not totally a personal choice. It may be the risk was high for her or something. Still, I was told the same thing with my first son and didn't care. I had been through too much to finally have a baby - I would have accepted him any way God gave him to me. Seeing that lil heart beating and baby squirming was a love and bond that started long before 5 months along. Thankfully the test was a false positive and he turned out just fine. less

It was not a medical reason, it was a choice. If the baby can be carried to term without hazard to the physical life of the mother or the baby (i.e., if the doctor says "If you go through with this pregnancy you or your baby will die.") then you're making the choice to terminate.

(I hate to be so black and white there but I'm trying to say it without emotion because the situation made a big impact on me and I was very angry about it because it was so late in the term and because her husband said to her, "If he can't be normal, I don't want him." So, it was definitely a choice.) less

It was not a medical reason, it was a choice. If the baby can be carried to term without hazard to the physical life of the mother or the baby (i.e., if the doctor says "If you go through with this pregnancy you or your baby will die.") then you're making the choice to terminate.

(I hate to be so black and white there but I'm trying to say it without emotion because the situation made a big impact on me and I was very angry about it because it was so late in the term and because her husband said to her, "If he can't be normal, I don't want him." So, it was definitely a choice.) less

It was not a medical reason, it was a choice. If the baby can be carried to term without hazard to the physical life of the mother or the baby (i.e., if the doctor says "If you go through with this pregnancy you or your baby will die.") then you're making the choice to terminate.

(I hate to be so black and white there but I'm trying to say it without emotion because the situation made a big impact on me and I was very angry about it because it was so late in the term and because her husband said to her, "If he can't be normal, I don't want him." So, it was definitely a choice.) less

I truly hope that some of the heated posts here lead to deeper compassion for each other and not feelings of polarity and isolation. You WILL NEVER KNOW what it is like for someone else in a situation that would require making this decision, so please do not judge. The only thing any of us can ever really say is 100% "right" is what is right for us.

Be kind to each other, y'all. less

I did. The father talked me into it despite my tears and I eventually agreed. I regretted it for a long time. Grieving behind me, I can now say it was the best choice for my baby and myself that was available.

Now I have two wonderful kids with a loving father, and I would not have them if I hadn't had the abortion.

It isn't a choice for everyone, and anyone who thinks it is a casual decision is fooling themselves, but it sometimes is the best choice available. less

Ok I am just wondering why my post was flagged? What I can not speak my mind on my views of abortion? Yet others can? I noticed another person who posted in the topic had their post flagged. What is someone going around flagging post of people who are anti-abortion? less

The issue here seems to be how you expressed your views:

"Whoever has an abortion should be punished severely! WHY?! You should never ever kill an innocent baby!"

We've had members of the community who have made that difficult choice and I think they feel that your condemnation of them is making them uncomfortable and alienating them. It would me as well. It's also just not appropriate for the forums.

You can be anti-abortion and not personally condemn every single person who has had one.

Thank you. less

Neither I nor the Eden staff controls what is and what isn't flagged. People who have posted in a negative and hurtful manner has been flagged in the past, regardless of what side of an issue they may be on. As of now, I have not seen another post like that on this thread. less

I did. The father talked me into it despite my tears and I eventually agreed. I regretted it for a long time. Grieving behind me, I can now say it was the best choice for my baby and myself that was available.

Now I have two wonderful kids with a loving father, and I would not have them if I hadn't had the abortion.

It isn't a choice for everyone, and anyone who thinks it is a casual decision is fooling themselves, but it sometimes is the best choice available. less

Are you saying the best choice for your baby was death? I can only hope I'm somehow misunderstanding you. What if someone decides your best choice is death?

We're all here because our parents chose life. Obviously you are glad to have your live children. Is that pride built of the sacrifice of your first child? less

Are you saying the best choice for your baby was death? I can only hope I'm somehow misunderstanding you. What if someone decides your best choice is death?

We're all here because our parents chose life. Obviously you are glad to have your live children. Is that pride built of the sacrifice of your first child? less

OK, I think we all need to step away from this thread. This is getting way over-heated and I do not like where it's going.

I want everyone to remember this: It's no longer about what side of the issue you're on and how you feel about it, it has become a case of deliberately provoking people. And that disappoints me greatly. So, please, everyone step away from this thread and give yourself a chance to cool down.

Thank you. less

All abortion is wrong! Why would anyone want to kill a innocent baby?!?! Why murder a innocent soul?!?!

Whoever has an abortion should be punished severely! WHY?! You should never ever kill an innocent baby!


There are plenty of women out there that ARE NOT able to have kids! Give the baby up for adoption! Do not murder the poor baby! less

I'm seething at this. I'm shaking I'm so mad right now. I have a head full of things that I want to say, but I respect Eden Fantasys too much to do so.

I do want to ask you a question, and I'm genuinely curious as to your answer.

In response to this: "Is that pride built of the sacrifice of your first child?"

You're no longer expressing opinion but speaking in judgment. So I want to know: Where do you get the right to pass judgment?

I really do want to know. I know that EF didn't ask you to dole out judgment onto others. I know that God doesn't approve of this. I know that you've made mistakes in your life that you feel terrible about and you would be ANGRY if anyone kept making you feel badly about them. So what gives YOU the right to do it to others?

PS, your comment violates the EOC particularly this paragraph:
Open discussions and opinions are welcome. We strongly support freedom of speech, but we do not support negative or hurtful behavior. Debates and disagreements are a part of the territory, but we expect members to conduct themselves in a mature and respectful manner. We will not tolerate bullying, deliberate provocation or disrespect. This includes insinuations and threats of action that may take place outside of the EdenFantasys community. less

I was just getting ready to say:

I read through the forum quite carefully and no one who was defending their stance for pro-choice ever said that anyone needed to be punished for not believing in abortion.

@Sgril116, The way you said your point of view was not only offensive, but it was also against the Expectations of Conduct for the forums. I'm not staff, but I've seen people get their accounts suspended for being in violation of the EOC. Let's just remember that there's a way to state your opinion without being offensive.

For example, you could say: "I am vehemently against abortion." It's simple, expresses your true feelings, yet doesn't make anyone feel like crap. less

What I can't express my opinions but yall pro abortion folk can?

I just do not think that makes sense and is not fair.

If people don't want to hear critisism about having an abortion then why do they post that they have had abortions? I mean no matter what people are going to hear the opposing side. No need to be so defensive and rude once someone who is against abortion posts.


Im sorry but where I used to live girls started having abortions in middle school! At the ages of 12,13,and 14 yrs old! Many of them had multiple abortions by the age of 16! Then at 16 they started having kids! I know 11 yr old who have had babies. I know females that have noone yet still had the baby. People who were dirt poor. Those are no excuses to have an abortion. You can find a nice loving family for your baby. Abortions is wrong and it is not the way to go at all. less