What does everyone think of the scandals coming to light recently?

Contributor: MrWill MrWill
By scandals, I mean: Beghazi, the Verizon-NSA thing, IRS scandal, the EPA scandal.


What are your opinions on the whole she-bang?
06/10/2013
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Contributor: js250 js250
It just goes to show how crooked our world has gotten....I quit having faith in any organization a long time ago. There is no protection or privacy for Americans unless you make it yourself.
06/10/2013
Contributor: MrWill MrWill
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Originally posted by js250
It just goes to show how crooked our world has gotten....I quit having faith in any organization a long time ago. There is no protection or privacy for Americans unless you make it yourself.
Eh, even then it is very limited with the drones and such. Try Googling yourself one day.. You would probably be blown away by what you find that is easily accessible!
06/10/2013
Contributor: Gunsmoke Gunsmoke
The only real scandal is that Obama excoriated Bush for doing all of these 'violations of privacy'. The reality is that he has done more drone strikes and more ease-dropping than Bush ever did. But there's no penalty for lying to the electorate!

By the way - IMO there is no violation of anyone's privacy. Billions of calls, texts and emails cannot be read or listened to - believe me, your life is not that interesting!

Phone & internet companies have used this same meta-data for decades to prevent intrusions and fraud on their networks - they even use the info to sell you things.

Why would you object to that same information being analyzed by software systems to catch terrorists, drug dealers and human traffickers?
06/11/2013
Contributor: sunflower sunflower
Quote:
Originally posted by MrWill
By scandals, I mean: Beghazi, the Verizon-NSA thing, IRS scandal, the EPA scandal.


What are your opinions on the whole she-bang?
My favorite article on the EPA scandal was the one that talked about how all the employees were just building pillow forts and shit in the federal office.

My real opinion: Clearly gives a shit about our 4th amendment rights anymore.
Also all the EPA and IRS stuff is a big waste of taxpayer money.
06/11/2013
Contributor: MrWill MrWill
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Originally posted by Gunsmoke
The only real scandal is that Obama excoriated Bush for doing all of these 'violations of privacy'. The reality is that he has done more drone strikes and more ease-dropping than Bush ever did. But there's no penalty for lying to the ... more
Because that isn't all it's being used for. When the government claims A, you better look at least through possibilities b-h.

It's not just for terrorist, and they don't really want to stop the drug dealers or it would already be done. I promise if the United States government really wanted to stop the cartels in Mexico it would be done, and done quick. Mexico would gladly take help destroying the cartels.. but the government makes too much money busting smugglers and then selling the money to finance things that aren't in the budget.
06/12/2013