Views on this whole Chick-Fil-A mess?

Contributor: ArmyWife4311 ArmyWife4311
What pisses me off more is that Chick-Fil-A is taking over the news while the soldier dying for this countries freedom are further through the news or not in it at all. This country really disgust me sometimes. (Sorry but I am VERY proud of my husband and all that serve to protect my freedom and rights.)
Anywho. Honestly, it doens't matter what anyone says, someone will get butthurt about it and protest. If there was a restaurant that said, "we don't promote religion" or something along those lines then the Christianity community would raise hell. Please note that I am not being homophobic about this situation because my dad is gay.
08/03/2012
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Contributor: Beck Beck
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Originally posted by ArmyWife4311
What pisses me off more is that Chick-Fil-A is taking over the news while the soldier dying for this countries freedom are further through the news or not in it at all. This country really disgust me sometimes. (Sorry but I am VERY proud of my ... more
My hubby was telling me that Chick A Fil had some kind of support anti gay day and had a massive turn out. This sickens me! It truly does! I wish people who supported this anti-gay behavior would actually stand up for what they are for because it's not for rights of individuals. It's like this photo that BBW Talks Toys posted on a gay marriage thread:



If you are against the rights that others should be entitled to...than what other rights are you against having? If we are a country that wants to be truly free...we can't pick a choose who gets these rights! Everyone should be equal and entitled to the same rights!
08/03/2012
Contributor: PeaceToTheMiddleEast PeaceToTheMiddleEast
Wrong on so many levels.
08/03/2012
Contributor: Ganconagh Ganconagh
Ahhh, interesting situation. Seems some people only support tolerance if your views agree with theirs, and demonize those who dare disagree with them. Not a very productive approach. Mr Cathy has every right to express his views. You dont have to agree with him, but how is calling for his stores to be banned in some cities because you disagree with him tolerant? Tolerance works both ways. You cant bully people into changing their core beliefs.

I dont agree with his position, but neither do I agree with those of the KKK, Black Panthers, Aryan Nation or any other racist/hate group. BUT, I do recognize their right to express their views.
08/03/2012
Contributor: ghent529 ghent529
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Originally posted by Beck
My hubby was telling me that Chick A Fil had some kind of support anti gay day and had a massive turn out. This sickens me! It truly does! I wish people who supported this anti-gay behavior would actually stand up for what they are for because ... more
Beck, This makes me sooo sad. My best friend is gay. we had a huge protest at school for him our sr. year so he could take a man to prom. it was really awesome. and WE WON.

as far as Chick A Fil goes they are just so blinded....
08/03/2012
Contributor: hot lil momma hot lil momma
I totally disagree with CFA's position in this. Mr Cathy may have the right to his opinions, but as a business owner he should probably have kept his views to himself. It does affect his financial bottom line in the long run. I personally have never eaten at Chik Fil A and I now never will after hearing his opinions.
08/03/2012
Contributor: Trysexual Trysexual
I'm not following the story too closely, but you can't help but hear bits on TV, so I am surely missing information. Chik Fil A, for better or worse, is getting tons of free publicity though.

I ate at one for only the 2nd or 3rd time in my life right before all this happened (not my pick). I never thought it was all that great and is pricey for fast food and portions are small too.

I know they close on Sundays for religious reasons and that is fine..maybe even admirable you could say in our greedy/consumer driven culture. (I'm not religious and not anti gay either)

Everyone has a right to their opinions, whether or not you agree. If you don't like Chik Fil A don't go. IF you don't like gay marriage, don't get gay married. I think people should be able to do what they want, so long as it doesn't harm others.

I wouldn't be involved in either side...live and let live I say, and I certainly wouldn't wait in line (or picket) at any over priced fast food joint just to make a point (could be staged for all we know). There are bigger problems in the world right now to worry about.

I'm tired of all these sideline issues distracting people while we are being robbed blind by the government (printing money/inflation/spendi ng) and federal reserve and not dealing with the inevitable fallout of the economic situation. Meanwhile fighting unjust and trumped up wars, violating civil rights, misusing the military, completely corrupt government (both sides), corrupt banking system, widening wealth/poverty gap, high unemployment and acting like an imperialist nation. We can thank W for bringing our nation to the divide we are now.
Who would have thought on 9/12/01 we would be in the position we are in now and so divided over such things?

And seriously, something needs to be done about the non stop campaign cycle. It is out of control. All that nonsense will all start up again 2 mos after the next election.

bah..I usually stay out of these discussions. Stick to the light stuff.
08/03/2012
Contributor: Unconventional Unconventional
If all he did was say he doesn't believe that the definition of marriage should change, that would be one thing. Freedom of Speech is our right.

HOWEVER

Admitting to using part of the company's profits to fund anti-gay lobbying is telling people, "When you buy from us, YOU are funding anti-gay lobbying". I've never contributed to this and I never will. He can have his beliefs, but he can no longer force people to unknowingly support hateful practices.
08/03/2012
Contributor: gsfanatic gsfanatic
Not that the food is good, but I'd rather my money not go to funding anti-gay stupidity. If you don't like gays, that's your call. I disagree with taking away other people's freedoms because I don't like their ____.
08/04/2012
Contributor: Anne Anne
Jon Stewart, the host of the Daily Show pretty much explains how I feel about this whole mess. He said it better than I could've.
08/04/2012
Contributor: namelesschaos namelesschaos
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Originally posted by Ganconagh
Ahhh, interesting situation. Seems some people only support tolerance if your views agree with theirs, and demonize those who dare disagree with them. Not a very productive approach. Mr Cathy has every right to express his views. You dont have to ... more
Tolerance does not mean tolerating hated, bigotry, prejudice or lies. I tolerate those I disagree and leave them in peace. I do not tolerate those that activly willfully, and deliberately, seek to do harm to others and strip them of their rights. This is not about Mr. Cathy's views it is about MR. Cathy actively trying to force those views on others. I tolerate those that believe gay sex is wrong, I will not tolerate those that try to make it illegal. Tolerance does not mean I won't fight back when you throw a punch at me.

I do not care about Mr. Cathy core values nor do I want them to change them. I've said this before and I'll say this again people get this wrong the goal of things like boycotts is not changing beliefs it is changing behaviors. What I want to changed is chick a fil's willful, knowing, financial support of know hate groups. Mr. Cathy can continue believe gay sex is wrong all he likes if boycotts make him stop donating to hate groups I no longer care, because till then they are not just beliefs they are actions, deliberate attacks against the rights of others. Then it would be just his personal belief and not an active effort to strip people of their right, then it is tolerable. Till then boycotting those that would do you or your loved ones harm is not intolerant it is self-defense.

The discussion of rights is a red herring, no one is threatening Mr. Cathy rights. The right to express your views does not free you from consequence. The right to express your views does not mean you owed a profit. The right to speech does not come with the guarantee of an audience.
08/04/2012