Thoughts on the Illuminati?

Contributor: lovelylolaa lovelylolaa
My boyfriend id obsessed with this illuminati new world order crap and hes kind of convincing me lol. He watches sooooooo many youtube videos on it... its driving me crazy for so many reasons... do you believe it?
Answers (public voting - your screen name will appear in the results):
yes, i believe it
mp3me , Rod Ronald , Trysexual , dv8
4  (11%)
nope, not true
hjtee , Terri69 , Supervixen , (k)InkyIvy , Skindiver , kdlt , inkky , Gunsmoke , Bleu , ARPKasso , Martiniman , BlooJay , Eugler , Living Doll , Kat and Aaron(aaron) , Diabolical Kitty , Ansley , spiced , SMichelle , Raymaker
20  (57%)
never heard of it
travelnurse , sexxxkitten , ginnyluvspotter , CaseyDeuce , Hummingbird , Isola , raindropsofblood , K101 , Geogeo , padmeamidala , kitty1949
11  (31%)
Total votes: 35
Poll is closed
12/18/2012
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Contributor: hjtee hjtee
I think people can make themselves believe whatever they want too. Keep your head to yourself, and if you don't believe in it, don't get sucked it!

If you want to believe in it, go ahead!
12/18/2012
Contributor: Terri69 Terri69
No, I don't
12/18/2012
Contributor: Supervixen Supervixen
Yeah, because YouTube videos are valid and reliable sources...
12/18/2012
Contributor: travelnurse travelnurse
I am not quite sure to be honest, I really haven't looked into that.
12/18/2012
Contributor: sexxxkitten sexxxkitten
I'm not sure either.
12/18/2012
Contributor: KissTheSkyBaby KissTheSkyBaby
I think there is merit to some "groups" in history. Whether or not youtube has it right though is another story all together. Fact and Opinion are two very different things and to be honest most people don't know what they are talking about. Do I believe there are powerful and politically influential people behind the scenes that we never see, of course. Nobody smart ever shows all their cards, or players in this case. Do I believe these unseens are all part of an elitist group that is all powerful, hardly. Bavarian Illuminati in general is an interesting topic but so are the Mayans and aliens for that matter. Unfortunately most of these topics are mainly speculation until hard proof surfaces.
12/18/2012
Contributor: mp3me mp3me
Quote:
Originally posted by Supervixen
Yeah, because YouTube videos are valid and reliable sources...
Im sure shes not saying that... but its there, theres documentaries on yt as well... not all videos on yt are fake. So i feel you shouldnt be rude and sarcasstic to her.and obviously thats basically her question... either you believe what your seeing or you dont... shouldve never clicked on the clearly marked ILLUMINATI link.
12/18/2012
Contributor: GONE! GONE!
I have a bunch of family members the same way. I'm so tired of hearing about it!
12/18/2012
Contributor: ginnyluvspotter ginnyluvspotter
never heard of it
12/18/2012
Contributor: Supervixen Supervixen
Quote:
Originally posted by mp3me
Im sure shes not saying that... but its there, theres documentaries on yt as well... not all videos on yt are fake. So i feel you shouldnt be rude and sarcasstic to her.and obviously thats basically her question... either you believe what your seeing ... more
I'm not following--because I don't believe in the Illuminati and don't believe in circumstantial evidence and the hysteria that fuels most conspiracy theories, I shouldn't have clicked on a link titled "thoughts on the Illuminati." Why, exactly? Am I not allowed to participate in this conversation? My point was that anyone can upload a video onto YouTube. It is not a source of reliable information, and that kind of "we don't need reliable evidence to make claims about what happens in our world" is not only a foolish way to look at the world, but is actively harmful. People can waste their lives speculating about who is "pulling the strings" in the world based on fairy tales that they tell each other, or they can pay attention to the things happening in front of their face and concern themselves with real world problems. I think that more strongly than ever in the wake of all these mass shootings. There's something wrong with our world and our culture, and sitting around watching YouTube "documentaries&qu ot; on conspiracy theories only fuels more paranoia, distrust, misinformation, misunderstanding, and distracts from real world problems. I believe that conspiracy theorists live in a fantasy world where problems and solutions are elusive, because it's easier for them that way--when all the world's problems are happening behind closed doors, what can you do about it besides sit around and speculate on YouTube? It's ridiculous and quite frustrating.
12/18/2012
Contributor: dv8 dv8
Illuminati is my favorite game.
12/18/2012
Contributor: inkky inkky
Meh, Not Really.
12/18/2012
Contributor: MrWill MrWill
I'm sure there are groups that influence things more than most will ever know, but not quite sold on the Illuminati thing.
12/18/2012
Contributor: Gunsmoke Gunsmoke
There are no doubt influential groups - like the Masons - but the world is way too complex for any to have rule-the-world power. Most are European centric that pay scant attention to the far larger and more powerful Asian cultures and influences.

Look on the globe - Europe is not a true continent - it's just the far western portion of Asia - but the arrogant 'writers of history' needed to carve out a special place for themselves. It's the same arrogance that lead to hundreds of years of futile wars - it wasn't until the US enforced a peace on Europe that they could even remotely work together.

They often call us barbaric and unsophisticated - please - without the US you'd all be German slaves! But I digress.....
12/19/2012
Contributor: Bleu Bleu
I think people just find the need to think there is a secret society like that out there. I don't think there is one, but there might be. Who knows.
12/19/2012
Contributor: Martiniman Martiniman
Uhhh...no.
12/19/2012
Contributor: BlooJay BlooJay
Nope, I don't believe it.
12/19/2012
Contributor: Eugler Eugler
I read a lot about this topic ten years ago and it really drove me paranoid. But the more I read the more obvious the antisemitic tendencies became. Illuminati stuff is very often linked with the protocols of the elders of zion which has prooven to be a fake in the 1930.
Rest is sad / horrible history.
12/19/2012
Contributor: Supervixen Supervixen
Quote:
Originally posted by Eugler
I read a lot about this topic ten years ago and it really drove me paranoid. But the more I read the more obvious the antisemitic tendencies became. Illuminati stuff is very often linked with the protocols of the elders of zion which has prooven to ... more
Thank you--I was going to say also why I have a HUGE problem with Illuminati conspiracies, but I didn't know if I wanted to open that can of worms. As a Jew, I get more than a little offended that my people are often accused of being at the center of this kind of shit, and it's infuriating. Antisemitic sentiment is rampant in these kinds of conspiracy theories. It's more than a little unnerving for me to read about them and that people actually believe it.
12/19/2012
Contributor: Hummingbird Hummingbird
Never heard of it but will have to find out what it is now.
12/19/2012
Contributor: raindropsofblood raindropsofblood
never heard of it
12/19/2012
Contributor: K101 K101
Quote:
Originally posted by lovelylolaa
My boyfriend id obsessed with this illuminati new world order crap and hes kind of convincing me lol. He watches sooooooo many youtube videos on it... its driving me crazy for so many reasons... do you believe it?
I do not know what it is, but I have seen the word lately. Maybe I'll look it up, but for some reason it's sounding like it might scare me. LOL. Will it?
12/19/2012
Contributor: Living Doll Living Doll
It's interesting to hear/read about but I don't think I buy it.
12/19/2012
Contributor: Geogeo Geogeo
Quote:
Originally posted by lovelylolaa
My boyfriend id obsessed with this illuminati new world order crap and hes kind of convincing me lol. He watches sooooooo many youtube videos on it... its driving me crazy for so many reasons... do you believe it?
Don't really know it, except for it movies
12/19/2012
Contributor: Rod Ronald Rod Ronald
It's real, but nothing t get too damn excited over. It's more or less an extension of the Free Masons. If there was a hidden agenda, there sure are doing a shit job at making it happen.
12/19/2012
Contributor: Diabolical Kitty Diabolical Kitty
Nope don't believe it
12/19/2012
Contributor: Trysexual Trysexual
There are all kinds of brotherhoods that exist today (Freemasons, Skull and Bones, bohemian grove and many more), so it is no stretch the illuminati might have existed in some form or another in the past, especially considering what the dark ages were like. If you think there are no secret societies with influence in the world, I think you are deluding yourself.
12/19/2012
Contributor: Voir Voir
Heard of it - Don't care.
12/19/2012
Contributor: spiced spiced
Paranoia will destroy ya. There are plenty of REAL reasons things are so f'ked up right now. Better to actually DO something about those than to buy into fake reasons.
12/20/2012