Unless there's some kind of last-minute miracle, it looks like Congress isn't going to take action to avert the fiscal cliff. If this does happen, who do you think deserves most of the blame for it?
If the US goes over the fiscal cliff, who's to blame?
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Actually, I'd blame the lobbyists and special interests.
Also, the media for blowing it up and making it a one vs. the other issue.
Also, the media for blowing it up and making it a one vs. the other issue.
12/27/2012
I agree with JR
12/27/2012
All of the above.
12/27/2012
JR's spot on.
12/27/2012
When two people can't reach a compromise it's BOTH of their faults!
12/27/2012
Blame is a waste of time.
12/27/2012
The American people's, for not kicking all the idiots out of the government.
12/27/2012
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THIS! Oh my god, like they seem completely unaffected by this. I think they shouldn't get paid until they come to a conclusion. If I don't work, I don't get paid.
Originally posted by
Ryuson
When two people can't reach a compromise it's BOTH of their faults!
12/27/2012
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This.
Originally posted by
El-Jaro
Actually, I'd blame the lobbyists and special interests.
Also, the media for blowing it up and making it a one vs. the other issue.
Also, the media for blowing it up and making it a one vs. the other issue.
And both the Dems and Republicans can kiss my...well, anyway, that's all I'll say about that.
12/27/2012
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Pretty much this.
Originally posted by
El-Jaro
Actually, I'd blame the lobbyists and special interests.
Also, the media for blowing it up and making it a one vs. the other issue.
Also, the media for blowing it up and making it a one vs. the other issue.
12/27/2012
Both are to blame, but Democrats can't raise taxes now and say they'll cut spending in 10-20 years. It never happens and we just get further into debt. We have to do both at the same time - and cut four times as much as we raise in taxes to pay off the 16 Trillion we're in debt...
12/27/2012
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You. I blame YOU.
Originally posted by
spiced
Unless there's some kind of last-minute miracle, it looks like Congress isn't going to take action to avert the fiscal cliff. If this does happen, who do you think deserves most of the blame for it?
12/27/2012
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Originally posted by
MrWill
The American people's, for not kicking all the idiots out of the government.
12/27/2012
WE are responsible.
12/27/2012
Killer llamas
12/27/2012
I agree with a lot of what everyone has said. I blame both parties for failing to compromise. Lobbyists and special interests--especially corporate interests--have corrupted the political process.
I don't think it's fair to blame ordinary Americans. We usually have two choices at the ballot box and they're BOTH bought and paid for by moneyed interests. Third parties are a potential solution but haven't gotten very far in the past. Not voting seems like the worst option of all.
What kills me about the fiscal cliff in particular is that the debt isn't even the most urgent problem we face. After helping to get the economy back on track and making sure our current generation can get the education they need to keep America competitive--and many other serious and urgent priorities--I'd rank the national debt way behind these in terms of importance.
Get the economy back on track and tax revenue will increase dramatically as it did in the 50s and the 90s. That'll make it possible to reduce the budget deficit and to better manage the national debt. But attacking the debt directly has never worked in real life. Feel free to provide me with an example from history if you think I'm wrong about that.
To me, focusing on the debt when the economy is still weak and unstable is like focusing on a leaky roof when the house is on fire. Yeah, the roof has to be fixed, but don't you think maybe it would be better to put out the fire first?
But that horse left the barn with the debt commission and now the two sides have to work out a compromise on debt reduction. That's what politicians are SUPPOSED to be good at, right? Making deals? As I understand it, the Republicans want 50% of the deficit reduction to come from new taxes and 50% to come from spending cuts, while the Democrats want 55% taxes and 45% spending cuts. SPLIT THE F#@KING DIFFERENCE, YOU IDIOTS! /soapbox
I don't think it's fair to blame ordinary Americans. We usually have two choices at the ballot box and they're BOTH bought and paid for by moneyed interests. Third parties are a potential solution but haven't gotten very far in the past. Not voting seems like the worst option of all.
What kills me about the fiscal cliff in particular is that the debt isn't even the most urgent problem we face. After helping to get the economy back on track and making sure our current generation can get the education they need to keep America competitive--and many other serious and urgent priorities--I'd rank the national debt way behind these in terms of importance.
Get the economy back on track and tax revenue will increase dramatically as it did in the 50s and the 90s. That'll make it possible to reduce the budget deficit and to better manage the national debt. But attacking the debt directly has never worked in real life. Feel free to provide me with an example from history if you think I'm wrong about that.
To me, focusing on the debt when the economy is still weak and unstable is like focusing on a leaky roof when the house is on fire. Yeah, the roof has to be fixed, but don't you think maybe it would be better to put out the fire first?
But that horse left the barn with the debt commission and now the two sides have to work out a compromise on debt reduction. That's what politicians are SUPPOSED to be good at, right? Making deals? As I understand it, the Republicans want 50% of the deficit reduction to come from new taxes and 50% to come from spending cuts, while the Democrats want 55% taxes and 45% spending cuts. SPLIT THE F#@KING DIFFERENCE, YOU IDIOTS! /soapbox
12/27/2012
Republicans
12/28/2012
Those Killer Llamas, ruining everything...
12/28/2012
Does "fiscal cliff" sound dirty to anyone else?
12/28/2012
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There it is.
Originally posted by
El-Jaro
Actually, I'd blame the lobbyists and special interests.
Also, the media for blowing it up and making it a one vs. the other issue.
Also, the media for blowing it up and making it a one vs. the other issue.
12/28/2012
All of them are to blame.
12/28/2012
Republican killer llamas.
12/28/2012
Every single politician who allowed the national debt to keep rising over the past 13 years. If you can't afford to pay for it through tax revenue alone, then you have no business doing any spending to begin with. Massive borrowing is no solution.
12/28/2012
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