Have you ever used a Ouija board?

Contributor: P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
Nope the cure is much simpler...you simply WILL it to stop and turn your mind to other things.
So, you're saying this stuff is "all in your mind?"

We'll have to agree to disagree on that one. But, like I said, there's no way to prove either opinion.
09/17/2012
Contributor: P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by Errant Venture
How do you know it's not the cure? How do you know that there's not another perfectly reasonable explanation for unusual events? For example, a friend of mine was convinced that he was haunted. Doors would slam of their own volition. Lights ... more
The vast majority of "hauntings" can be debunked as being due to natural causes. I KNOW this. However, there are things we can't explain, and one has to choose (or finally EXPERIENCE for oneself, in some cases, or for really stubborn people with preconceived notions without the experience to back those notions up) for oneself what appears to be true (keeping in mind that sometimes what "appears" to be true and what is actually happening may be quite different.) I already said I'm not trying to change anybody's mind.

Please read my previous post that it doesn't make a damn bit of difference who makes the boards as that doesn't matter. Not to mention the fact that they can be easily home made, with similar results. Everyday objects can be the focus of paranormal entities all the time. WHO makes the boards is irrelevant. Why do people keep bringing this up, as if it made any difference?

I'm not going to argue about something that can't be proven scientifically, and THIS cannot be proven scientifically.

I'm not going to go into every "what if" because there are too many of them.

If you don't think something nasty can be called up or have the hubris to think you can completely control this something once it has manifested, be my guest. I wouldn't want to be there when it happens, though. Most people who have had things they can't get rid of at one time either didn't believe or thought they could control whatever came through. I know people who used boards for years with no nasty occurrences, until, once...

But, I can't prove that, and I'm not going to try.

Do what thou wilt.
09/17/2012
Contributor: Tianna Silver Tianna Silver
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Originally posted by XxFallenAngelxX
I am thinking of buying one for my Halloween party... It has been years since we used one. Have you ever used one? Did it freak you out?
I actually have a small collection of them lol I have a beautiful hand carved one a friend made for me. Then a few others from around the world and in different languages. They're fun little toys to play with.
09/17/2012
Contributor: Beck Beck
I have before, but nothing ever happened. It's not something I believe in.
09/17/2012
Contributor: pixylove101 pixylove101
Yes, I didn't work!
09/17/2012
Contributor: Lover of Leather Lover of Leather
Never. Never care to either, especially after the story one of my receptionists told me about her and her sisters experience with one. I prefer happy spirits to unholy ones. Let's not wake up the latter.
09/17/2012
Contributor: inkky inkky
I Have One. Doesn't Scare Me, But My Mom Won't Go Near The Thing.
09/17/2012
Contributor: Big&Bald Big&Bald
I have used them before many times and nothing ever happened to me but I am not saying that it won't. Who knows.....
09/17/2012
Contributor: SecretKinksters SecretKinksters
Have before, many years ago. Not really my thing.
09/17/2012
Contributor: T&L T&L
Played with one when I was 11 or 12 and the only thing that happened was a struggle between my friend and I trying to make it spell out something that would freak out the other. So in the end neither of us were able to spell out anything to freak the other out. However, I do believe there is a darkside out there and its best left alone. I have heard of some very real, Evil stuff happening to some of those who have used this board in earnest. Not just while they are using the Ouija board but after the fun and games have stopped and the board had been long since put away!!
09/18/2012
Contributor: ksparkles16 ksparkles16
I haven't but I want to someday
09/18/2012
Contributor: aluminummm aluminummm
No. I guess I've still held onto some superstitions from my catholic Cuban upbringing :|
09/18/2012
Contributor: Eve12 Eve12
I have used them and I think they freaked me out in the past. I don't play with them anymore.
09/18/2012
Contributor: Errant Venture Errant Venture
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Originally posted by P'Gell
The vast majority of "hauntings" can be debunked as being due to natural causes. I KNOW this. However, there are things we can't explain, and one has to choose (or finally EXPERIENCE for oneself, in some cases, or for really stubborn ... more
Why can't it be proven scientifically? If it exists in this world, then it should be observable, quantifiable, and should be able to be scientifically proven. As yet: nothing.

For the record, I have experienced several things that I can't explain, but I don't think we should go by personal experience on its own. Human perception is very flawed, with witnesses to incidents giving conflicting accounts. That's why we test things. That's why we need more than just 'because I say so' in the courts.

I've just given the finger to the Christian god, and I've been in the bathroom to attempt a Bloody Mary chant (though it's the morning here, so it was quite light. I'll try again later), and I'll be ordering a ouija board later. I'll keep you informed of anything bad happening (to be clear I've had this sore throat and dodgy stomach for a few weeks, so that can't be counted).
09/18/2012
Contributor: P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by Errant Venture
Why can't it be proven scientifically? If it exists in this world, then it should be observable, quantifiable, and should be able to be scientifically proven. As yet: nothing.

For the record, I have experienced several things that I ... more
I've made it clear I'm not trying to change anybody's mind.

How should I know why something can't be proven yet? Take in mind that 200 years ago or less we couldn't prove that there were other galaxies, or planets around those other suns. (But, they still existed.) Now, we have the technology to prove these things are true. Fifty years ago, we didn't have DNA testing to prove everything from who committed certain crimes to parentage of children for certain. Now we have that technology. That doesn't mean The truths we can prove now weren't true years before, simply because we didn't have the technology to prove them. Does it? Many things that exist may not be able to be proven, only because of the technology to prove them hasn't been invented yet.

But, that's neither here nor there, as it takes imagination to think that things exist, even if one can't "prove" them. We have proof for things (everything from the moon landing to the President being born in the USA) that people STILL refuse to believe. For some, NO amount proof is enough. For others, a little uncertainty is intriguing. I'm of the latter. YOU don't have to be.

If you do purchase and mess around with a Ouija board, there is no guarantee that anything will happen. Nor that you will be able to detect subtle changes if they do, or that you will be able to attribute those changes to your actions with the board or with anything else. People who don't want to be open to certain things can ignore a boatload of experiences, if they choose. Some people have boards for decades, and absolutely nothing happens. (As some people smoke for decades and remain completely healthy, that doesn't mean that NO ONE who smokes won't have health problems.) Good luck with your board. (You do know that you have to have at least two people in order.... never mind.)

But, I'm not trying to prove anything to you nor anyone else. Nor trying to change your mind.

Why are you so vehement about trying to change mine ? It makes no difference to you in the long run what I believe in or don't believe in.

You said: I've just given the finger to the Christian god So? That's not relevant to this conversation. I don't see the relevance at all. You're trying to prove to me you don't "believe" in anything? And? It makes no difference to me what you, or anyone else believes in.

In part, we are products of our experiences and how we interpret and decode them. Some people don't understand that. ALL people have beliefs, whether they admit to them or not.

Believe what you wish. It makes no difference to me. I'm not trying to convince you of anything.

You have every right to choose what to believe in.

As does everyone else.
09/18/2012
Contributor: TheirPet TheirPet
I don't go anywhere near those.
09/18/2012
Contributor: KyotoAngel KyotoAngel
Nope, they were banned in our house because of a really bad experience my mother had with one when she was little.
I don't know all the details but I know something happened that scared her and my grandmother both really bad so they taped it all up and threw it away before it could get worse.
09/18/2012
Contributor: XxFallenAngelxX XxFallenAngelxX
I remember moving the piece ourselves trying to scare one another but I am not so sure on getting one after all. Maybe a picture of one in a frame will suffice.
09/19/2012
Contributor: Errant Venture Errant Venture
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Originally posted by P'Gell
I've made it clear I'm not trying to change anybody's mind.

How should I know why something can't be proven yet? Take in mind that 200 years ago or less we couldn't prove that there were other galaxies, or planets around ... more
I did not say you were trying to change someone's mind.

I did not say you. I said 'why can't it be proven scientifically?' which seems pretty obvious to me. Now, you did say 'I can't prove that', which is fair, but I broadened the question to why it can't be proven scientifically. And, as I'd said a while ago in another thread, there's been over 100 years of experimentation into this subject. In fields that are credible, discoveries and advances in technology occur within the first few years (even in the sciences started 200 years ago or more), yet there's been nothing here. And, true, it's possible that our current level of technology is not good enough, however, I believe it is good enough to produce at least some evidence.

The thinking in the second paragraph is nonsensical. Yes, people still believe the moon landings were faked, but not any credible scientist in that field. The 'for some, no proof is enough. For some, a little uncertainty is intriguing', you forget to include a third (and fourth), those that desire proof. I am of that caste. Imagination, in this instance, is irrelevant.

I am open to such things. I believe, however, that attributing such power over your life to an inanimate object is nonsense.

I'm not so much trying to change your mind, so much as I'm trying to point out inconsistencies and fallacies in your argument.

That wasn't so much relevant, true; however, before this thread I'd read one about God watching us have sex. I thought I'd include that to cover all the bases, and is relevant in the list of things that I was, or will be doing in an attempt to bring forth untold horrors upon me. Incurring the wrath of the god of smiting seemed to fit the bill. I also insulted a few Mayan gods, though that was after my post.

I didn't say not everyone has beliefs (or if I did, it was a slip of the finger). I don't believe that.

'You have every right to choose what to believe in.

As does everyone else.'

Quaint.
09/19/2012
Contributor: XxFallenAngelxX XxFallenAngelxX
I see people selling these on craigslist, wow...
09/22/2012
Contributor: marshmallow marshmallow
yep, it wasn't that great tho
09/22/2012
Contributor: Supervixen Supervixen
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Originally posted by XxFallenAngelxX
I see people selling these on craigslist, wow...
You know, you can make your own. Just use an upside down wine glass on a smooth surface, like a table, and arrange pieces of paper with the alphabet on them, then a yes and a no.

This conversation made me think of an interesting experiment to do with a ouija board to further prove that we move the planchette on our own--have two people who don't speak the same language use one together and see if the board can spell out anything, or even work at all. I have a feeling it wouldn't because both people are required to make them work. Ever try to use one by yourself? I've never seen it work, and apparently, it just doesn't work without at least two people. If you don't understand the question the other person is asking, then that means you aren't being prompted by the suggestion of the conversation to think of a possible response from the board, which then guides the way the board will answer. Just a hypothesis.
09/22/2012
Contributor: Cat E. Cat E.
I've never used one. I think they're very silly.
09/22/2012
Contributor: Cream in the Cupcake Cream in the Cupcake
Lol funny story. So yesterday my husband went into Panda Express to get me chinese food and he comes back with food and a Ouija Board. Some guy outside asked if he wanted it, my husband said no at first but on his way out the guy said he was going to leave it somewhere because it was bad luck, so he took it. We played it and just laughed and stared at eachother. Its just sitting on the table, doing nothing like we expected. It is an old one too, the questions on the back are hilarious. "Will I grow taller so I can slam dunk?", "Does Bobby know I like him?, Who told him?". Funny stuff.
09/22/2012
Contributor: True Pleasures True Pleasures
No way I'm using one of those things. Even those who are experienced have had issues with unwanted spirits coming through. Nope. Not opening up that can of worms.
09/22/2012
Contributor: FallFire FallFire
Tried it, and it didn't work (not like I really EXPECTED it to, but anyway...). Funny story, though. I bought one once for a friend. I was with my grandma, and she was WAAAAY superstitious. She made me put the bag in the trunk of the car...it had to be as far away from her as possible...
09/23/2012
Contributor: Moniqua Moniqua
No I don't believe in using one. Not for me.
09/23/2012
Contributor: satinlady550 satinlady550
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Originally posted by XxFallenAngelxX
I am thinking of buying one for my Halloween party... It has been years since we used one. Have you ever used one? Did it freak you out?
No, and I don't want to.. Those things really creep me out!
09/23/2012
Contributor: Supervixen Supervixen
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Originally posted by Cream in the Cupcake
Lol funny story. So yesterday my husband went into Panda Express to get me chinese food and he comes back with food and a Ouija Board. Some guy outside asked if he wanted it, my husband said no at first but on his way out the guy said he was going to ... more
Will I grow taller so I can slam dunk?

That's a great image too, your husband coming home with Chinese food in one hand and a Ouija board in the other. What, were they out of fortune cookies?
09/23/2012
Contributor: Lioncub Lioncub
Never used one. I feel you have to believe in those items for them to work and I don't believe in them.
09/23/2012