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Errant Venture
Why can't it be proven scientifically? If it exists in this world, then it should be observable, quantifiable, and should be able to be scientifically proven. As yet: nothing.
For the record, I have experienced several things that I
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Why can't it be proven scientifically? If it exists in this world, then it should be observable, quantifiable, and should be able to be scientifically proven. As yet: nothing.
For the record, I have experienced several things that I can't explain, but I don't think we should go by personal experience on its own. Human perception is very flawed, with witnesses to incidents giving conflicting accounts. That's why we test things. That's why we need more than just 'because I say so' in the courts.
I've just given the finger to the Christian god, and I've been in the bathroom to attempt a Bloody Mary chant (though it's the morning here, so it was quite light. I'll try again later), and I'll be ordering a ouija board later. I'll keep you informed of anything bad happening (to be clear I've had this sore throat and dodgy stomach for a few weeks, so that can't be counted).
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I've made it clear I'm not trying to change anybody's mind.
How should
I know why something can't be proven yet?
Take in mind that 200 years ago or less we couldn't
prove that there were other galaxies, or planets around those other suns. (But, they still existed.) Now, we have the technology to prove these things are true. Fifty years ago, we didn't have DNA testing to prove everything from who committed certain crimes to parentage of children for certain. Now we have that technology. That doesn't mean
The truths we can prove now weren't true years before, simply because we didn't have the technology to prove them. Does it?
Many things that exist may not be able to be proven, only because of the technology to prove them hasn't been invented yet.
But, that's neither here nor there, as it takes imagination to think that things exist, even if one can't "prove" them. We have proof for things (everything from the moon landing to the President being born in the USA) that people STILL refuse to believe. For some, NO amount proof is enough. For others, a little uncertainty is intriguing. I'm of the latter. YOU don't have to be.
If you
do purchase and mess around with a Ouija board, there is no guarantee that
anything will happen. Nor that you will be able to detect subtle changes if they do, or that you will be able to attribute those changes to your actions with the board or with anything else. People who don't want to be open to certain things can ignore a boatload of experiences, if they choose. Some people have boards for decades, and absolutely nothing happens. (As some people smoke for decades and remain completely healthy, that doesn't mean that NO ONE who smokes won't have health problems.) Good luck with your board. (You do know that you have to have at least two people in order.... never mind.)
But, I'm not trying to prove anything to you nor anyone else. Nor trying to change your mind.
Why are you so vehement about trying to change
mine ? It makes no difference to you in the long run what I believe in or don't believe in.
You said:
I've just given the finger to the Christian god So? That's not relevant to this conversation. I don't see the relevance at all. You're trying to prove to
me you don't "believe" in anything? And? It makes no difference to me what you, or anyone else believes in.
In part, we are products of our experiences and how we interpret and decode them. Some people don't understand that. ALL people have beliefs, whether they admit to them or not.
Believe what you wish. It makes no difference to me. I'm not trying to convince you of
anything.
You have every right to choose what to believe in.
As does everyone else.