With the latest concerns about the serious behavior of personnel within the Internal Revenue Service, do you ever feel intimidated or fearful of this agency? You should also be aware that the IRS will also be involved in the enforcing of the Obamacare program and that many people feel there healthcare will be compromised. What do you think?
Do you feel intimidated by the Internal Revenue Service?
05/16/2013
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The IRS is not involved in your healthcare decisions. I promise you, no one there gets a vote.
Now, your health insurance provider, I would potentially worry about.
Now, your health insurance provider, I would potentially worry about.
05/16/2013
not a fan of them. Had to deal with them when I ran a business, it wasnt fun.
05/16/2013
Taxation without representation. The IRS was put in place as a temporary measure...that was made permanent. I am leery of the IRS, but not intimidated. There are many a lawyer that deals with them on a daily basis if needed--now those guys could intimidate me!!
05/17/2013
A low flat tax is considered 'regressive' because it's relative impact on the low income citizen is high. For all of those who want to 'tax the rich' - the flat tax would be a huge windfall for some, but it would capture some cheats.
Off-shore tax havens thrive for hiding income - that will not change regardless of the taxation system.
Off-shore tax havens thrive for hiding income - that will not change regardless of the taxation system.
05/17/2013
I believe the IRS should stay OUT of my healthcare decisions
05/17/2013
Mr. John
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I think how you phrased the question is part of the problem. You have made assumptions of serious behavior, when no such behavior has been shown to date. What you have at this moment is a partisan debate regarding a specific tax code which has caused angst, and venomous opportunity to inflict political pain. Congress originally approved the term “Exclusively” for this specific tax code, and it was changed to “Primarily” within the IRS. This change using “Primarily” was partisan to begin with, because large donor money wants to receive non-taxable status, when none should exist for either party. So, Congress and the IRS could simply end the debate by enforcing the status under the original termed language "Exclusively", and you would no longer have a problem with regard to this specific code. However, you will find that both the GOP and Democrats will steer clear of this simple fix, because of Big Money. So, when you mention serious behavior, you neglect to mention the difficulty placed before the IRS employee to determine who or what group is operating under the term “Primarily“. You can drive a MACK truck through the term “Primarily“. We charge our IRS personnel with the responsibility of collecting tax, within the IRS tax code. People/tax payers in general do everything they can to take advantage of every loop hole available, as well as some who knowing evade paying tax. The IRS has created computer programs, and every other method under the sun to determine who is likely, or possibly evading tax collections. So, Congress has intentionally caused this specific problem by not fixing it, and they will not fix it. Yes, we can all agree that no specific Political Party should be focused on, when the IRS is determining a groups eligibility. However, it is the IRS’s responsibility to make certain that everyone meets the guidelines of the IRS tax code. No IRS employee to date has been shown to have acted with partisan/political motivations. It does not mean that poor decisions have not been made by a few employee’s within the IRS regarding focus. But, let’s try refraining from using politically charged, or motivated phrases like “serious behavior”.
Originally posted by
PassionateLover2
With the latest concerns about the serious behavior of personnel within the Internal Revenue Service, do you ever feel intimidated or fearful of this agency? You should also be aware that the IRS will also be involved in the enforcing of the
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With the latest concerns about the serious behavior of personnel within the Internal Revenue Service, do you ever feel intimidated or fearful of this agency? You should also be aware that the IRS will also be involved in the enforcing of the Obamacare program and that many people feel there healthcare will be compromised. What do you think?
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05/17/2013
Like most people, the IRS gets under my skin. I am a firm believer that income tax for private individuals is unconstitutional. If you watch the documentary "America: Freedom to Fascism" it explains this well.
That said, I still pay taxes, because I don't want the IRS gang of bullies to destroy my life. My husband and I got all our money back this year, so that was good. I'm not sure about in the future when we're making more money.
That said, I still pay taxes, because I don't want the IRS gang of bullies to destroy my life. My husband and I got all our money back this year, so that was good. I'm not sure about in the future when we're making more money.
05/17/2013
Taxes are what we pay for civilized society.
— Oliver Wendell Holmes
That's pretty much how I feel about it. I don't like paying taxes, but I'd like our society a lot less without the things they pay for (roads, schools, police and fire protection, etc).
I don't fear the IRS, because I make sure to pay what I owe. I imagine I'd fear (or at least, dread) them if I tried to dodge my tax obligations, much the same as I imagine I'd fear/dread the police if I broke criminal laws.
— Oliver Wendell Holmes
That's pretty much how I feel about it. I don't like paying taxes, but I'd like our society a lot less without the things they pay for (roads, schools, police and fire protection, etc).
I don't fear the IRS, because I make sure to pay what I owe. I imagine I'd fear (or at least, dread) them if I tried to dodge my tax obligations, much the same as I imagine I'd fear/dread the police if I broke criminal laws.
05/17/2013
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Where there is bureaucracy, there is mess.
Originally posted by
PassionateLover2
With the latest concerns about the serious behavior of personnel within the Internal Revenue Service, do you ever feel intimidated or fearful of this agency? You should also be aware that the IRS will also be involved in the enforcing of the
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With the latest concerns about the serious behavior of personnel within the Internal Revenue Service, do you ever feel intimidated or fearful of this agency? You should also be aware that the IRS will also be involved in the enforcing of the Obamacare program and that many people feel there healthcare will be compromised. What do you think?
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The way it's set up seems like something out of a sci-fi movie about systems that don't function.
05/17/2013
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As a Canadian, I am not personally afraid of the IRS. However, I do think that they should stay out of people's business from what I have heard, and I hope that no one suffers because of their healthcare being compromised.
Originally posted by
PassionateLover2
With the latest concerns about the serious behavior of personnel within the Internal Revenue Service, do you ever feel intimidated or fearful of this agency? You should also be aware that the IRS will also be involved in the enforcing of the
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With the latest concerns about the serious behavior of personnel within the Internal Revenue Service, do you ever feel intimidated or fearful of this agency? You should also be aware that the IRS will also be involved in the enforcing of the Obamacare program and that many people feel there healthcare will be compromised. What do you think?
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05/17/2013
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Personally I don't fear them but I also do not trust them. Never really have and this latest news only proves that the place is not neutral in its political stance. I think we would be better off getting ride of them and then having a flat tax rate for everyone.
Originally posted by
PassionateLover2
With the latest concerns about the serious behavior of personnel within the Internal Revenue Service, do you ever feel intimidated or fearful of this agency? You should also be aware that the IRS will also be involved in the enforcing of the
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With the latest concerns about the serious behavior of personnel within the Internal Revenue Service, do you ever feel intimidated or fearful of this agency? You should also be aware that the IRS will also be involved in the enforcing of the Obamacare program and that many people feel there healthcare will be compromised. What do you think?
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05/19/2013
Mr. John
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I have no idea what you mean when saying "latest news only proves that the place is not neutral in its political stance". What proof are you talking about? Is it maybe the one or two over zealous and overworked IRS agents, who may have taken it upon themselves to target GOP groups applying for tax free status. I'm not saying that this targeting problem might not in the end become bigger. But, you are portraying something as factual, when no facts exist to support your statement.
Originally posted by
A&M
Personally I don't fear them but I also do not trust them. Never really have and this latest news only proves that the place is not neutral in its political stance. I think we would be better off getting ride of them and then having a flat tax
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Personally I don't fear them but I also do not trust them. Never really have and this latest news only proves that the place is not neutral in its political stance. I think we would be better off getting ride of them and then having a flat tax rate for everyone.
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With regard to having a flat tax. I personally do not have a problem with paying such a tax. It would be substantially less than what I pay now. However, I read a lot of posts here at Eden from people who are clearly struggling to make ends meet, and my heart goes out to them. The reality is that the wealthy 5% of the American population pays 50% of our collected Federal income tax. In 2007 41% of households paid no income tax. In 2009 51% paid no income tax. So, my point is that if you have a flat tax system, people who are struggling to make ends meet now, will only end up worse off. That 5% who pay 50% of our Federal tax now, will rejoice having a flat tax. But, it’s my opinion, that we should do everything possible to protect that 41% to 51% of the population who are clearly struggling.
05/20/2013
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You must really be in denial over the IRS scandal; senior IRS personnel refusing to testify before Congress; senior IRS personnel taking the 5th; and the same IRS personnel who should be working for us but refuse to answer to us (through Congress - our elective representatives)!
Originally posted by
Mr. John
I have no idea what you mean when saying "latest news only proves that the place is not neutral in its political stance". What proof are you talking about? Is it maybe the one or two over zealous and overworked IRS agents, who may have
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more
I have no idea what you mean when saying "latest news only proves that the place is not neutral in its political stance". What proof are you talking about? Is it maybe the one or two over zealous and overworked IRS agents, who may have taken it upon themselves to target GOP groups applying for tax free status. I'm not saying that this targeting problem might not in the end become bigger. But, you are portraying something as factual, when no facts exist to support your statement.
With regard to having a flat tax. I personally do not have a problem with paying such a tax. It would be substantially less than what I pay now. However, I read a lot of posts here at Eden from people who are clearly struggling to make ends meet, and my heart goes out to them. The reality is that the wealthy 5% of the American population pays 50% of our collected Federal income tax. In 2007 41% of households paid no income tax. In 2009 51% paid no income tax. So, my point is that if you have a flat tax system, people who are struggling to make ends meet now, will only end up worse off. That 5% who pay 50% of our Federal tax now, will rejoice having a flat tax. But, it’s my opinion, that we should do everything possible to protect that 41% to 51% of the population who are clearly struggling. less
With regard to having a flat tax. I personally do not have a problem with paying such a tax. It would be substantially less than what I pay now. However, I read a lot of posts here at Eden from people who are clearly struggling to make ends meet, and my heart goes out to them. The reality is that the wealthy 5% of the American population pays 50% of our collected Federal income tax. In 2007 41% of households paid no income tax. In 2009 51% paid no income tax. So, my point is that if you have a flat tax system, people who are struggling to make ends meet now, will only end up worse off. That 5% who pay 50% of our Federal tax now, will rejoice having a flat tax. But, it’s my opinion, that we should do everything possible to protect that 41% to 51% of the population who are clearly struggling. less
Seriously, you must stop drinking the cool aid! Have you forgotten that when Obama was first elected, he claimed that his administration would be the most transparent of any prior administration in American history. Well, he's lied again and 'leading' from behind as usual, so it's up to Congress to find out what is going on in his administration.
Oh, and by the way, this happens to be the same IRS agency who will be in charge of our healthcare (a/k/a Obamacare) and the same arrogant personnel who will dictate your healthcare decisions which should be left between you and your doctor! I have to submit that we are only beginning to see the culture of corruption which belies the operation of this feared agency; that's the genesis of my Poll question!
05/25/2013
Never felt intimidated by the IRS.
05/25/2013
They don't really effect my life any. We file taxes and everything, but we aren't in a high enough bracket to really screw something up.
05/25/2013
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