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Contributor: Sundae Sparkles Sundae Sparkles
I work and live in Upstate new York. we are getting hit by a bath salts epedemic and it just started recently.

I'm originally from Central Maine were I worked in a Mental Hospital we saw bath salts becomeing an epedemic 2 years before all this zombie face eatting stuff.

I'm wondering if bath salts is an issue in your community, and when it started poping up
06/20/2012
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Contributor: bayosgirl bayosgirl
Not that I know of. Aren't "bath salts" crystal meth (rather than the bath salts sold in stores?)
06/20/2012
Contributor: Geogeo Geogeo
Oxys are the issue in my town.
06/20/2012
Contributor: Yaoi Pervette (deleted) Yaoi Pervette (deleted)
I am not in touch with the drug culture in my area, but I hear a lot stories about prescription painkiller abuse.
06/20/2012
Contributor: Ryuson Ryuson
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Living in New Mexico we have... Just about an everything problem, sans anything very expensive. I haven't HEARD much about Bath Salts, but being just north of the border and having the drug culture we do I'm sure it's only a matter of time.
06/20/2012
Contributor: Zombirella Zombirella
They were being sold at weird places like certain gas stations but law enforcement stepped in and it's now banned here. We also had those places selling K2. I remember idiots bragging about getting the K2 like they were cool or something, yeah real cool to do something more dangerous than the original thing!
I had a drug and alcohol psych. class before I graduated and they said our area has more problems with abuse of prescription opiates.
06/20/2012
Contributor: P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by bayosgirl
Not that I know of. Aren't "bath salts" crystal meth (rather than the bath salts sold in stores?)
"Bath Salts" are a European amphetamine like drug that is not the same as crystal meth, believed to usually be made from Methylenedioxypyrovale ron or a clone of that drug. It's been popular in Europe and is still legal in some parts of the US.

Here's an article about them. link

They aren't a huge problem in our area, yet. I have several relatives who are police officers (one in Chicago and two Sheriff's Deputies) who have told me in our area, due to the proximity to Chicago Crack and Oxycontin are still the most abused drugs in this area.
06/20/2012
Contributor: Sundae Sparkles Sundae Sparkles
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Originally posted by bayosgirl
Not that I know of. Aren't "bath salts" crystal meth (rather than the bath salts sold in stores?)
bath salts is like meth, PCP and coke all together ... it basically is the worst thing ever..
06/20/2012
Contributor: Sundae Sparkles Sundae Sparkles
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Originally posted by Yaoi Pervette (deleted)
I am not in touch with the drug culture in my area, but I hear a lot stories about prescription painkiller abuse.
That is what it was like first in maine.. Prescription drugs then that got old for the people then they moved to meth... now bath salts
06/20/2012
Contributor: Sundae Sparkles Sundae Sparkles
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Originally posted by Zombirella
They were being sold at weird places like certain gas stations but law enforcement stepped in and it's now banned here. We also had those places selling K2. I remember idiots bragging about getting the K2 like they were cool or something, yeah ... more
thing is they have been illegal in Maine for over a year.. people now know how too make them at home
06/20/2012
Contributor: SimpleTeaser SimpleTeaser
This hasn't been an issue in my area yet. I live in a fairly small community though.
06/20/2012
Contributor: Sundae Sparkles Sundae Sparkles
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Originally posted by SimpleTeaser
This hasn't been an issue in my area yet. I live in a fairly small community though.
yet is the key word... the majority of Maine is built of small communities. I hope it doesn't become an issue where you live.. Its extremely sad too watch people deteriate so quickly... its like 100 times worth then meth..
06/21/2012
Contributor: MistressDandelion MistressDandelion
I never heard about it before that guy-eating-someone's-f ace incident.
06/21/2012
Contributor: P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by Sundae Sparkles
bath salts is like meth, PCP and coke all together ... it basically is the worst thing ever..
Every time there's a new drug, the press says "It's the worst thing ever." Absinthe: The Worst Thing Ever. Morphine: The Worst Thing Ever. Marijuana: The Worst Thing Ever. Barbiturates: The Worst Thing Ever. LSD: The Worst Thing Ever. Heroin: The Worst Thing Ever. Ts and Blues: The Worst Thing Ever. Cocaine: The Worst Thing Ever. PCP: The Worst Thing Ever. Crack: TWTE. Oxycontin: TWTE. Ecstasy: TWTE

Do you see the trend?

Drugs all have their time, none are much "worse" than any other. People will abuse ANYTHING. These things cycle. NONE are "worse" (save weed, which isn't that bad, but people say it is "stronger" when it isn't) than any other.

When is the last time you heard of someone abusing Ts and Blues? Or barbiturates? Or even Absinthe?

Some people use drugs in some ways so they have an excuse to act worse than animals. Other people use the same drug and are completely responsible with it. This, too will run it's course. For now, it is just a way to give "The War On Drugs" more power, and that is the least winnable war in history.
06/21/2012
Contributor: Beck Beck
We had our issue with bath salts last year. It was made federally illegal some time last year. But it was made illegal here in Ohio before the feds did it.

Everyone views any drug as the "worst thing ever." Like P'Gell said they all have their time.

And the active ingredient in bath salts is comparable in lower doses to things Dr's right prescriptions to child for ADHD. Check it out: MDPV
06/21/2012
Contributor: PeaceToTheMiddleEast PeaceToTheMiddleEast
Yes we have a couple cases here in Ohio.
06/21/2012
Contributor: - Kira - - Kira -
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Originally posted by P'Gell
Every time there's a new drug, the press says "It's the worst thing ever." Absinthe: The Worst Thing Ever. Morphine: The Worst Thing Ever. Marijuana: The Worst Thing Ever. Barbiturates: The Worst Thing Ever. LSD: The Worst Thing ... more
So much agreement to this. I need a "love" button for this post.

Yes, we have bath salts here. I know a few people who have tried them and said they were awful.
06/21/2012
Contributor: Errant Venture Errant Venture
We have had a few bath salts problems in my area, yes. The apothecary ran out of lavender scented bath salts a couple of times. There were riots. Someone had his face eaten. Police think he was using a new drug called Calpol.
06/22/2012
Contributor: Jaimes Jaimes
Prescription drug abuse and marijuana are the most common problems with high school students in my area. I live in suburbia, where everyone has a prescription for everything from depression to stubbed toes. Kids just raid their parent's medicine cabinets and pop whatever they might find.

I have known a few people who have tried the bath salts, and interestingly enough, they said that they never experienced the urge to eat someone's face. It just kept them up for a few days. They even said that while the hangover was awful, the high was more euphoric and made them talk nonstop, rather than anything sinister. I wonder if there are different types out there, since every state has its own set of laws about what is and is not illegal for those type of drugs.
06/22/2012
Contributor: - Kira - - Kira -
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Originally posted by Jaimes
Prescription drug abuse and marijuana are the most common problems with high school students in my area. I live in suburbia, where everyone has a prescription for everything from depression to stubbed toes. Kids just raid their parent's medicine ... more
I would assume the chemicals are slightly different from state to state depending on how the laws are written. Just like the fake pot differs depending on which chemical formula has been made illegal in the area. The people I know that have tried them reported the same thing as you're saying - no face eating, talking a lot, really awful hangover.
06/22/2012
Contributor: married with children married with children
i never heard of them until a few weeks ago. I still dont know what they are. but then I stay away from drug use and users
06/22/2012
Contributor: Yaoi Pervette (deleted) Yaoi Pervette (deleted)
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Originally posted by - Kira -
I would assume the chemicals are slightly different from state to state depending on how the laws are written. Just like the fake pot differs depending on which chemical formula has been made illegal in the area. The people I know that have tried ... more
I think we also have to take into account individual reactions to substances. Most people who use these bath salts probably react the way you described. However, everyone is different, and there always a few people who don't react well. I think the "face eating" case has gotten so much attention because of its extreme nature.
06/22/2012
Contributor: HarlequinBunnie HarlequinBunnie
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Originally posted by Sundae Sparkles
I work and live in Upstate new York. we are getting hit by a bath salts epedemic and it just started recently.

I'm originally from Central Maine were I worked in a Mental Hospital we saw bath salts becomeing an epedemic 2 years before all ... more
I don't think its a problem where I live. The first time I heard of this was when that guy got shot for eating another guys face off. My husband says he hasn't even talked to anyone or known of anyone who has used it and he is fairly popular on Facebook. (friend of a friend) All he says he knows about it is that its dangerous and that it kills the user eventually.

I thought you were talking about actual bath salts for the bath. He had to explain.
06/22/2012
Contributor: Sundae Sparkles Sundae Sparkles
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Originally posted by P'Gell
Every time there's a new drug, the press says "It's the worst thing ever." Absinthe: The Worst Thing Ever. Morphine: The Worst Thing Ever. Marijuana: The Worst Thing Ever. Barbiturates: The Worst Thing Ever. LSD: The Worst Thing ... more
and yes I usually agree with you...
I'm sure there are people out their who can handle their bath salts or their water.. but I deal with people on these drugs and I see how quickly their minds break down and start acting as if it was their first Psychotic break... Sorry I didnt use my words correctly.. Its the worst thing ever too me too see someone who was perfectly capable loose it on this drug...
06/22/2012
Contributor: Rey Rey
Quote:
Originally posted by P'Gell
"Bath Salts" are a European amphetamine like drug that is not the same as crystal meth, believed to usually be made from Methylenedioxypyrovale ron or a clone of that drug. It's been popular in Europe and is still legal in some parts of ... more
thx for clearing that up, i hadn't actually heard of the term (in Oz)
06/23/2012
Contributor: GONE! GONE!
Not that I know of. Just meth over here.
06/23/2012