I haven't been on here in about a year (working just out of college trying to save up money to move out). I've been living w/ my parents which means no ordering toys or lingerie (not that they would go through my stuff, but it would look weird to them if I got a package & took it to my room to open). I saw that there were some changes w/ the points program, which I can understand b/c it was really easy to rack up points. I saw some posts on here that there were a lot of people who are pissed off about this, and stuff about contributors leaving. Could someone tell me exactly what is going on that has seemed to make so many people mad? I would greatly appreciate it.
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In a nutshell, the owner wanted to curtail the point spending. He decided that from now on out, only 15% of the price of an order can be paid for in points. People are angry because several people feel they have been cheated out of compensation for activities on the site.
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GravyCakes
I haven't been on here in about a year (working just out of college trying to save up money to move out). I've been living w/ my parents which means no ordering toys or lingerie (not that they would go through my stuff, but it would look
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I haven't been on here in about a year (working just out of college trying to save up money to move out). I've been living w/ my parents which means no ordering toys or lingerie (not that they would go through my stuff, but it would look weird to them if I got a package & took it to my room to open). I saw that there were some changes w/ the points program, which I can understand b/c it was really easy to rack up points. I saw some posts on here that there were a lot of people who are pissed off about this, and stuff about contributors leaving. Could someone tell me exactly what is going on that has seemed to make so many people mad? I would greatly appreciate it.
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This announcement by Fred. The gist is that you can only pay for an order using 15% points. For example, if I wanted to place a $100 order, I could only use 1500 points (equivalent to $15 currently).
Some of the anger is because the 15% cap was not a gradual change.
Additionally, earlier in the month there was a Amnesty Review Week where you could earn $20.00 (in points) per review. Many contributors decided to publish reviews for the bonus points, but now are stuck not being able to use them all (100% points) on an order.
Some of the anger is because the 15% cap was not a gradual change.
Additionally, earlier in the month there was a Amnesty Review Week where you could earn $20.00 (in points) per review. Many contributors decided to publish reviews for the bonus points, but now are stuck not being able to use them all (100% points) on an order.
06/21/2013
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You beat me to the punch by 22 seconds you sly dog ^.^
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SneakersAndPearls
In a nutshell, the owner wanted to curtail the point spending. He decided that from now on out, only 15% of the price of an order can be paid for in points. People are angry because several people feel they have been cheated out of compensation for
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In a nutshell, the owner wanted to curtail the point spending. He decided that from now on out, only 15% of the price of an order can be paid for in points. People are angry because several people feel they have been cheated out of compensation for activities on the site.
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What can I say. I'm a ninja.
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Lady of the Lab
You beat me to the punch by 22 seconds you sly dog ^.^
06/21/2013
The other thing I find really odd is, on top of all that, they're still calling the points conversion a "gift card".
What other company provides you with a gift card, which you can use like any other gift card (100% of your order), and then changes their mind and decides you can only use the "gift card" for 15% of your order?
What makes this such a big deal is that many people had hundreds of dollars' worth in points carefully saved up, that they are now not able to spend under the new system (because they don't have the cash to pay for 85% of their order). If there had been some warning, if people were able to use their points earned under the previous agreement and then there was a switch to the new way of doing things, then there wouldn't be anything unethical about it.
There's every indication that Eden Fantasys is in financial crisis, though they continue to insist they are not. I think it's a pretty safe guess that if they weren't before this week, then they will be now, just from the business they'll lose due to this uproar. If EF was financially stable, they would have been okay with people spending all their points before implementing the new system, or providing sufficient warning to do so,
Through it all, EF has refused to admit any fault, and instead blames it's valued contributors for actually using the points system as intended.
It's all a bit crazy to me.
What other company provides you with a gift card, which you can use like any other gift card (100% of your order), and then changes their mind and decides you can only use the "gift card" for 15% of your order?
What makes this such a big deal is that many people had hundreds of dollars' worth in points carefully saved up, that they are now not able to spend under the new system (because they don't have the cash to pay for 85% of their order). If there had been some warning, if people were able to use their points earned under the previous agreement and then there was a switch to the new way of doing things, then there wouldn't be anything unethical about it.
There's every indication that Eden Fantasys is in financial crisis, though they continue to insist they are not. I think it's a pretty safe guess that if they weren't before this week, then they will be now, just from the business they'll lose due to this uproar. If EF was financially stable, they would have been okay with people spending all their points before implementing the new system, or providing sufficient warning to do so,
Through it all, EF has refused to admit any fault, and instead blames it's valued contributors for actually using the points system as intended.
It's all a bit crazy to me.
06/21/2013
now this all makes sense. & I agree that you can't really call it a "gift card" if you can't even use all of it at once. I can understand on wanting to cut down on using points, but I don't think I agree with that one particular new rule.
06/21/2013
not to overwhelm you, but here are a few links that may help you catch up - it's not all sequential or comprehensive, sorry I couldn't do that for you. but you will learn a lot about all the chaotic actions implemented by EF & the community reactions. if you need any clarification or anything, feel free to contact me & I'll do my best to help make some kind of sense of a particular question you have.
good luck finding any kind of understanding of it all. basically, EF is broken & there are a lot of factors that have contributed to it. you'll discover all of this as you read through all these links
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remember, contact me at anytime if you need more clarification.
good luck finding any kind of understanding of it all. basically, EF is broken & there are a lot of factors that have contributed to it. you'll discover all of this as you read through all these links
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remember, contact me at anytime if you need more clarification.
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