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Contributor: Inquisitor Inquisitor
If you were given $2k and the only stipulation was that you had to invest it in the stock market in one of 2 companies. After you looked around you've narrowed it down to 2 companies that look appealing. They are Apple and Exxon. Also, you plan to hold this purchase for a while/multiple years.

Also, please tell me why you chose what you chose.
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04/13/2015
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Contributor: Vnessa Vnessa
I would probably go with Apple even though I'm not a huge fan and you ate buying in at a higher price of $41.34 per share more. They are are fluctuating a bit less right now and I tend to play safer with stocks.

Now, mind you, I'm not big on the stock market scene so I didn't really spend a lot of time looking into the future for either company . I'm just going off the here and now.

Truthfully, I would call up our advisor and ask her opinion since I don't follow the trades closely enough lol. I fear Exxon would be all over the place and give me palpitations constantly .
04/13/2015
Contributor: Inquisitor Inquisitor
I'm not a huge fan of either company either, however, they are both very profitable and they are "ok" with their employees. Neither company has experienced any serious human rights issues that I'm aware of. If they have please let me know.
04/14/2015
Contributor: OH&W, Lovebears OH&W, Lovebears
The gas industry stock values have been on a downturn for quite a few yrs now. In the 90's and early 2000 were great ! Price of oil really effects their stock valve irregardless of how much revenue they have. So it's a no brainier since AAPL has gone from 19.80 to 129.50 since 2000. And they even split.

Or course like gas stocks as soon as I get in, AAPL will prob drop!

Of course the price of a barrel is at an all time low now.
Maybe it will go up ? I'm not ready to sell yet.
04/14/2015
Contributor: Inquisitor Inquisitor
I hear what you're sayin' OH&W, but, doesn't the energy sector move in cycles? Summer and Winter are the more profitable seasons while Fall and Spring are less profitable.

As for the price per barrel, for me, that is a certain amount of noise. It is important but not super important for me. From what I've noticed, there is too much that goes into calculating that. You've got geo political factors, day traders, refining issues, transportation issues, domestic collusion and the eastern oil cartels, etc. that all play a part in the price per barrel.

Now, make no mistake Apple has its share of issues as well. Those issues just center more around the consumer. If the consumer doesn't feel like Apple's products are a value and if the company can't keep innovating, then it is stuck. Remember in the early 90's before Steve Job's came back to the company? Apple was about to go under. Microsoft temporarily bailed out Apple.
04/15/2015
Contributor: OH&W, Lovebears OH&W, Lovebears
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Originally posted by Inquisitor
I hear what you're sayin' OH&W, but, doesn't the energy sector move in cycles? Summer and Winter are the more profitable seasons while Fall and Spring are less profitable.

As for the price per barrel, for me, that is a certain ... more
One would think it does, but unfortunate it doesn't. I've held them hoping they will go back up each summer. Last yr did go near it's pre 2008 fall but then fell again when price barrel dropped to $40. Energy is a big gamble and not cylindrical or staple. With new sources of energy I doubt if energy stocks will ever perform like in the past. Computer, Biotech, small cap is a better purchase.

Yes many bailed when SJ passed away. Few yrs later Apple took off. New creations and technology every yr. Nearly every MF and Retirement Plans contains AAPL now.

It's easy to buy anything, the trick is when to get out. Warren Buffet, I'm not.
04/15/2015
Contributor: Mr. E Mr. E
I have held both stocks since at least 2008. I personally would not hesitate to invest gifted money in either of them. Both pay a dividend above what a savings acct would pay. With that said, my AAPL position has significantly outperformed my XOM shares.
04/15/2015
Contributor: OH&W, Lovebears OH&W, Lovebears
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Originally posted by Mr. E
I have held both stocks since at least 2008. I personally would not hesitate to invest gifted money in either of them. Both pay a dividend above what a savings acct would pay. With that said, my AAPL position has significantly outperformed my ... more
Hey Mr E,

Sure be nice if someone (hint Inq) gave both of us 1k to invest. Then after x number of years see who's investment grew the most. Winner take all ?



Definitely will not buy Gold or Energy !
btw, I like your reviews.
04/15/2015
Contributor: Inquisitor Inquisitor
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Originally posted by OH&W, Lovebears
Hey Mr E,

Sure be nice if someone (hint Inq) gave both of us 1k to invest. Then after x number of years see who's investment grew the most. Winner take all ?



Definitely will not buy Gold or Energy !
btw, I like your ... more
I can , however, there would be stipulations you might not like .
04/16/2015
Contributor: OH&W, Lovebears OH&W, Lovebears
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Originally posted by Inquisitor
I can , however, there would be stipulations you might not like .
Go ahead and split my 1 k among these mfs: FLPS, FCNTX, & FBIOX.
04/17/2015
Contributor: Inquisitor Inquisitor
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Originally posted by OH&W, Lovebears
Go ahead and split my 1 k among these mfs: FLPS, FCNTX, & FBIOX.
Are those mutual funds? FBIOX at first glance looks like a Biotech fund. I didn't take a look at those names, I just guessing.
04/17/2015
Contributor: OH&W, Lovebears OH&W, Lovebears
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Originally posted by Inquisitor
Are those mutual funds? FBIOX at first glance looks like a Biotech fund. I didn't take a look at those names, I just guessing.
Yes, the most volatile of the 3. Higher possible gain and loss. Low price has been fairly steady though like all will fall if market takes a tumble. Contra has been up and down.
04/17/2015
Contributor: Mr. E Mr. E
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Originally posted by OH&W, Lovebears
Hey Mr E,

Sure be nice if someone (hint Inq) gave both of us 1k to invest. Then after x number of years see who's investment grew the most. Winner take all ?



Definitely will not buy Gold or Energy !
btw, I like your ... more
Lol. I am not a stock picker or trader. I am holding a hand-full of stocks purchased a number of years ago.
But in your winner take all scenario I would look for something high risk, high rewards or possibly something extremely volatile and hope I get lucky with my timing. What would I have to lose...other than Inquisitors generous contribution to our game of chance?
04/17/2015
Contributor: Inquisitor Inquisitor
You two are silly. Ok, so let's say we make this happen. My stipulation would be that I would loan you each 1k and at the end of a 1 year period I get it back as well as whatever profit is made. You may invest it any way you want but at the end of the 1 year period, I get it all back.

For investing it, I would give you a percentage that has yet to be decided.
04/17/2015
Contributor: Mr. E Mr. E
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Originally posted by Inquisitor
You two are silly. Ok, so let's say we make this happen. My stipulation would be that I would loan you each 1k and at the end of a 1 year period I get it back as well as whatever profit is made. You may invest it any way you want but at the end ... more
I'm not sure just what happened. This whole thread went downhill quick. Let's review.
First you asked us to simply pick which one of the two stocks we would invest in if we were given $2000.00. Easy enough.

Then OH&W turned it into a contest, but cut my gift in 1/2, reducing it to only $1000.00, he then proceeded to change the rules by choosing investments outside of the two clearly proposed in the title of this thread. Each of his chosen funds have a number of different stocks. How fair is that? Sounds like he is looking for an advantage switching over to mutual funds.

And now you've completely taken away my free gift money and turned it into a loan that I must pay back. Next thing you'll probably require me sign over my car title or real estate as security on your generous gift/ loan. No deal! I'm out. Your gift is gonna cost me more than the 2008 market correction.

04/18/2015
Contributor: OH&W, Lovebears OH&W, Lovebears
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Originally posted by Inquisitor
You two are silly. Ok, so let's say we make this happen. My stipulation would be that I would loan you each 1k and at the end of a 1 year period I get it back as well as whatever profit is made. You may invest it any way you want but at the end ... more
What loan me and then get back your principal and any gains? Do I have to pay the taxes for you also? Are you part of the M....o ? However I do like the % though.
04/18/2015