I'm not attracted to women.
If you were dating a M2F transgender woman and she was pre-op...(private poll)
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03/31/2012
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I agree with this 100%
Originally posted by
Chirple
There is no right or wrong way to express sex or gender.
If the operation isn't right for her now, or ever, that's fine.
The "average" person isn't going to understand, no. The "average" person would be ... more
If the operation isn't right for her now, or ever, that's fine.
The "average" person isn't going to understand, no. The "average" person would be ... more
There is no right or wrong way to express sex or gender.
If the operation isn't right for her now, or ever, that's fine.
The "average" person isn't going to understand, no. The "average" person would be bothered, possibly be angered, and could even become violent.
But why should the "average" person's aesthetic desires, sexual preferences, and bodily hang-ups play into forcing someone to physically alter themselves when they're just not ready or don't want to ? less
If the operation isn't right for her now, or ever, that's fine.
The "average" person isn't going to understand, no. The "average" person would be bothered, possibly be angered, and could even become violent.
But why should the "average" person's aesthetic desires, sexual preferences, and bodily hang-ups play into forcing someone to physically alter themselves when they're just not ready or don't want to ? less
Personally it wouldn't bother me, but I'm another individual who doesn't really take genitals into account when I find someone attractive... it's usually personality and face for me xD
03/31/2012
i don't fall for genitals so it wouldn't bother me
03/31/2012
as long as she's a nice lady, what's between her legs doesn't matter
04/02/2012
I wouldn't care if my girl had a penis
04/18/2012
I wouldn't be bothered by it at all but I'm not cis and genitalia of all sorts are fine with me. I've even dated pre-op MTF and FTMs before and I honestly view them as their identifying gender even if their body doesn't match.
However, I know some people are bothered by this. It's important to remain safe and communicative with one's partners.
However, I know some people are bothered by this. It's important to remain safe and communicative with one's partners.
06/13/2012
If it were me, though, I wouldn't mind as I like both sets and if I loved her, it wouldn't matter to me.
BUT, I would understand if someone didn't want to date someone like that as long as they treated her with respect on their way out--we can't all like male genitalia.
BUT, I would understand if someone didn't want to date someone like that as long as they treated her with respect on their way out--we can't all like male genitalia.
06/22/2012
No. If that person identifies as a woman, she is a woman. She is just built differently than cis-gendered women. Being pre-op wouldn't bother me at all and it is no one's business about what she does or does not do with her bits.
06/23/2012
Sounds like it would just be an added plus to me..
06/23/2012
I am dating a MAAB bigender femme who has no current plans for any sort of surgery but who definitely has a strong female identity, and I love her and her body. It doesn't bother me at all. Of course, I'm genderqueer, so I have some experience in accepting bodies that don't always click with people's identities in some ways.
06/26/2012
It wouldn't bother me at all but it certainly wouldn't be easy
07/08/2012
would not be bothered.
07/08/2012
I'm dating a trans guy and his genitals don't bother me at all, so I assume in this situation that it'd be unbothersome as well.
07/08/2012
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All of this. Well said.
Originally posted by
Owl Identified
Yup! Surgery isn't necessarily the right option for everyone. Surgery can end up diminishing the capacity for orgasm, and possibly eliminating that possibility altogether. Surgery for trans women also tends to mean life long
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Yup! Surgery isn't necessarily the right option for everyone. Surgery can end up diminishing the capacity for orgasm, and possibly eliminating that possibility altogether. Surgery for trans women also tends to mean life long "maintenance" through activities like routine dilations. Surgery can mean infection, loss of feeling, and many other risks. Surgery always carries serious risks with it, and for some, the risks are worth it and that's great. For others, the risk are not worth it, and this is also perfectly fine. Others cannot afford this multi-thousand dollar surgery that insurance companies rarely help out with. Still others don't agree with your assertion that trans genitals don't "match" their sex or gender identity. Many of these people are very happy to keep their genitals the way they are. It sounds like your friend - for the time being, at the very least - falls into that category.
Having a penis doesn't mean this person's genitals don't "match" their sex or gender identity. Genitals don't have to be a determinant of those things. A pre- or non- op trans person's genitals are not somehow incongruous with their identity. The individual decides their sex and gender identity, not a set of parts between their legs. If you want to support your friend, I would highly suggest starting by phasing bioessentialist language like this out of your vocab.
Beyond that, your friend's mental, physical and emotional safety are the priority here. She doesn't need to deal with dates and lovers that cannot or will not validate her identity at best, and may be violent toward her at worst. It might be worthwhile for her to look into dating or social networking sites and forums geared toward trans folks. Not fetishy chaser/"ally" sites, but sites where trans people can network. She might find people there can point her in the right direction for dating. She also may find she has better luck (for the moment, at least) dating people that somewhat understand her concerns because they are also trans. less
Having a penis doesn't mean this person's genitals don't "match" their sex or gender identity. Genitals don't have to be a determinant of those things. A pre- or non- op trans person's genitals are not somehow incongruous with their identity. The individual decides their sex and gender identity, not a set of parts between their legs. If you want to support your friend, I would highly suggest starting by phasing bioessentialist language like this out of your vocab.
Beyond that, your friend's mental, physical and emotional safety are the priority here. She doesn't need to deal with dates and lovers that cannot or will not validate her identity at best, and may be violent toward her at worst. It might be worthwhile for her to look into dating or social networking sites and forums geared toward trans folks. Not fetishy chaser/"ally" sites, but sites where trans people can network. She might find people there can point her in the right direction for dating. She also may find she has better luck (for the moment, at least) dating people that somewhat understand her concerns because they are also trans. less
07/09/2012
My opening question on first dates isn't "so what's the situation in your pants?" It's more about personality, compatible goals and interests, whether someone is kind-hearted, funny, interesting, smart, etc. The other stuff is important, but it comes later, and if you like and care about someone, I would imagine that the detail isn't big enough to cause a problem.
07/09/2012
I don't know that it "would" bother me a little bit but it might. I've never been in that situation. I'd like to believe that I'd be open enough to be okay with whatever surprise is in the shorts...however, I might feel a bit misguided and more than surprised when it came to sex and I hadn't been told.
07/09/2012
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Honestly If I ever became single again I want to date a M2F in fact several times I have thought about asking the wife if she would mind me hooking up with one. I am into pegging so of course a trans simply makes it so that I don't have to deal with the girl putting her penis on. Honestly if I was single I would probly try to get your friends number, but I digress if your friend doesn't want to get the bottom done that is her decision and hers alone it is a huge step and not only that, but I have heard of many people losing alot of their pleasurable feeling during sex post op. And honestly if your friend looks like a woman, acts like a woman and I don't doubt is dead sexy then she is probly more woman than most women. And as far a partners go I know for a fact there are a huge amount of people that would love not just a sexual relationship with your friend, but a real lasting relationship.
Originally posted by
Peggi
I have a friend who is a M2F transgender woman, pre-op, and although she is definitely a woman on the inside, her genitals just don't match the inside! She is actually in no rush to change this, but a lot of people give her grief about it. I
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I have a friend who is a M2F transgender woman, pre-op, and although she is definitely a woman on the inside, her genitals just don't match the inside! She is actually in no rush to change this, but a lot of people give her grief about it. I was just curious, if you were dating a woman, knowing she is pre-op, would the male genitalia bother you? I always try to give her advice and help her out, but I thought maybe getting an idea of whether or not this is a big issue among MOST people rather than just the few who have come into her life, might help me out!
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07/10/2012
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I'd be bothered by it
Originally posted by
Peggi
I have a friend who is a M2F transgender woman, pre-op, and although she is definitely a woman on the inside, her genitals just don't match the inside! She is actually in no rush to change this, but a lot of people give her grief about it. I
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I have a friend who is a M2F transgender woman, pre-op, and although she is definitely a woman on the inside, her genitals just don't match the inside! She is actually in no rush to change this, but a lot of people give her grief about it. I was just curious, if you were dating a woman, knowing she is pre-op, would the male genitalia bother you? I always try to give her advice and help her out, but I thought maybe getting an idea of whether or not this is a big issue among MOST people rather than just the few who have come into her life, might help me out!
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07/10/2012
I am a bi woman, and genitalia is such a small part of it that I don't think it would matter at all to me.
07/12/2012
It's a HUGE decision to make and it's intimidating at that.
It wouldn't bother me at all to be honest. I don't think I would enjoy being penetrated by her but I think that would be the only stipulation. Seeing her as she is and as her body is I wouldn't mind showing my affection for her or having sexual relations with her in a way that would be fine for both of us- she's still a woman no matter what
It wouldn't bother me at all to be honest. I don't think I would enjoy being penetrated by her but I think that would be the only stipulation. Seeing her as she is and as her body is I wouldn't mind showing my affection for her or having sexual relations with her in a way that would be fine for both of us- she's still a woman no matter what
07/12/2012
Wouldn't bother me one bit.
07/24/2012
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This. For serious.
Originally posted by
Silverdrop
Geez, what is wrong with these people? IF your friend is in a serious relationship, that partner has earned the right to express an opinion about the matter. But other than that, what business is it of anyone else's? It's her body, her risks,
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Geez, what is wrong with these people? IF your friend is in a serious relationship, that partner has earned the right to express an opinion about the matter. But other than that, what business is it of anyone else's? It's her body, her risks, her decision.
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This is a crap poll.
How often do you talk about your friend's genitals, if you're not in a sexual relationship with them? It would typically be considered kinda rude, no? But everybody gets to have an opinion about trans genitals. It is crap.
07/24/2012
I'm pansexual, so it wouldn't bother me at all. The only thing that would upset me (or rather, used to upset me), which is common so I understand it and therefore DON'T get upset by it, is if they refused to engage in any sexual activity because of it
07/24/2012
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Exactly ?
Originally posted by
Ryuson
It wouldn't bother me at all, but when I look at someone and consider how attractive they are I don't consider gender, anyways.
07/24/2012
It wouldn't bother me at all. I wouldn't be dating them.
07/24/2012
It would bother me a little bit, but only because being with a trans woman would trigger my own dysphoria.
05/31/2013
I personally wouldn't date a transgender. :\
06/01/2013
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Is there a certain reason why would wouldn't date a transgender person?
Originally posted by
Beautiful-Disaster
I personally wouldn't date a transgender. :\
06/02/2013
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This is exactly how I feel.
Originally posted by
meezerosity
No. If that person identifies as a woman, she is a woman. She is just built differently than cis-gendered women. Being pre-op wouldn't bother me at all and it is no one's business about what she does or does not do with her bits.
06/17/2013
I think it would take a little getting used to because I really do prefer vaginas. However, above all, I am very attracted to women. And if a woman I adored happened to have male genitalia, that's something that I don't think would be that hard to adjust to.
06/30/2013