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P'Gell
The thing about relationships is how both of you have decided you will run the relationship. Gender of lovers does NOT matter. Women lovers (for the woman in the relationship) "count" just as much as male lovers would. (I think the idea
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The thing about relationships is how both of you have decided you will run the relationship. Gender of lovers does NOT matter. Women lovers (for the woman in the relationship) "count" just as much as male lovers would. (I think the idea that "female lovers don't 'count'" is really disrespectful of all women, especially those who take other women as their lovers exclusively.)
If the dynamic of your relationship is monogamy, that you don't sleep with other people, unless you change the understanding of the relationship and you both agree to it.
If your man is willing to open the relationship, then you will both be free to sleep with anybody, male or female.
If he isn't into an Open Relationship, then you have some choices; Live within the boundaries of a monogamous relationship, leave the relationship (which is the most honest thing to do if you NEED other lovers) or cheat.
I don't advise cheating in ANY relationship. If there is an understanding that the relationship is Open to other people, then both of you are Open to see others. One sided Open Relationships are usually unfair and someone will end up getting badly hurt, not to mention the resentment that will happen. (Constructing and living in an Open Relationship isn't easy, I've done it, and I think monogamy is actually more simple and less stressful.) But, if you NEED more than one lover, you NEED to be honest with the man who expects and probably NEEDS monogamy.
His needs and your needs may not be both workable in this relationship. Incompatibility is often inevitable if one person wants one type of relationship and the other person disagrees.
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That's how I believe it is, that the terms of any relationship should be established by THAT relationship - but I also believe that the terms can be open for negotiation at some point as long as both (or all) parties agree. I do believe that women COUNT, as I've been with many women in my past and would never want any of those experiences to be invalidated by the idea that same-sex sex or relationship doesn't count. It does, but in the context of some of my past relationships, if I were with a man I was free to be with other women and the man wouldn't care because that was something that he could not provide me with, but it would hurt him if I were with another man. I don't, even in the slightest, mean to imply anything against either gender. Likewise, I've been in relationships where the girl I was with wanted to have the freedom to be with a man if she so chose because they have different parts than I do and can provide her with a different sensation than I could. I also understand that being worded that way, EVERY SINGLE PERSON could provide someone with a different sensation than someone else, but for the sake of this conversation I only mean men versus women.
The current dynamic is monogamy, and that's what I'm looking to change - to an extent.
I do understand that if I change the rules for one person, they will be changed for BOTH people, that wasn't something that I have a problem with and have mentioned it to him. I would never expect to be able to do something and not allow him to do the same (or something that we both found to be a fair trade.)
I'm not ready to leave the relationship over something like this, although I know that I am well within my rights to leave if I did ever want to.
I will not cheat. If I wanted to cheat, I wouldn't be fighting so hard to have permission to do what I feel that I need - I'd just do it.
Thank you for your advice and input, I'll take all of it into consideration and I appreciate your time and thoughts very much