I like were you're going with this, but it isn't the "Suck the dildo" that gets me, it's the domination aspect. I'd definitely love to see pegging porn where it's clear the two are equal and the man is as much a participant as the woman. Maybe even some male-dom pegging porn with the man demanding his sub "give it to him good" for his pleasure. less

I like were you're going with this, but it isn't the "Suck the dildo" that gets me, it's the domination aspect. I'd definitely love to see pegging porn where it's clear the two are equal and the man is as much a participant as the woman. Maybe even some male-dom pegging porn with the man demanding his sub "give it to him good" for his pleasure. less

Well, I have some questions for you regarding the flipside to this coin, which I think may provide some insight. Why is it so rare that a male penetrating a woman is not conflated with her subservience and his dominance or conquest in porn? Why is it that when a woman engages in penetrative intercourse - regardless of how active she is in the sex - is she a passive receiver (being "fucked" and not "fucking")? Why is the act of fellating a penis inherently submissive? Why is a man less "masculine" as you say, for enjoying playing a submissive role? Why are the "REAL men", as you say, those that do not enjoy submission? Why can't my partner suck my silicone cock and play a submissive role without having his identity as a man called into question? Why can't we have an equal relationship if he enjoys sucking my cock? Does that mean that I am not his equal if I suck his cock?

I think the trap many of us fall into is the conflation of penetration with submission, and then submission with femininity, and then femininity with weakness. Should we expect the porn industry to do anything but give the population what it wants to see? Isn't that the business they are in? Shouldn't we expect to see fetishes that buy into these pervasive tropes of gender and power? Aren't these fetishes the big money makers for pornographers and, in turn, doesn't the porn industry have the most to gain from producing this kind of porn? Even though your original post speaks out against the fetishization of these tropes, it ultimately perpetuates those tropes, and in turn perpetuates this kind of porn's popularity in a distant, indirect sense.

Furthermore, to those in this thread that suggest that men are not "equal" in the scene because they are playing into a submissive role, I think this is unfair to many submissives in this community - male, female and otherwise. Consensual dominance/submission can manifest is so many ways, but ultimately, it is always rooted in permission and choice on both ends. A submissive party plays into this role because they enjoy it; they are not less equal because they enjoy submission. Their will and agency is just as real and valuable as the dominant party. The submissive still must give the dominant permission to do what they do. That? Is equality as far as I can tell. less

Ah, understood. I rescind that part of my post, in that case. I think in the case you describe it might be easiest just to say "without power exchange" or "without pronounced power dynamics" or something. In any case, I get what you're saying now and I thank you for the clarification. less

Absolutely agreed with the original post!

In fact, I was ranting about this a day ago with my BF. I love love the idea of pegging, and wish so badly that I could find some decent quality pegging porn that didn't get wrapped up in the stereotypes that people tend to associate with pegging. Like the OP said, there are plenty of hetero men who just enjoy anal stimulation from their female partners... so where the heck is the porn that represents this?

You'd think that with the internet being so full of porn and sexual expression, that this wouldn't be so hard to find. It blows my mind, really. less

Our "Friday" free speaking dinner group met last night, and after an hour of talking politics, we finally got off that blood pressure raising topic and got around to our favorite...sex. Now, we had a good size group this time (varies from 2 to 14 couples), and last night we had seven couples. We got to talking about things we see in Porn (we all watch it as couples) and things we have "never seen" but would find "really sexy..a turn on". Conversation got REALLY explicit and pretty wild, I must admit.

When all was said and done, we had "consensus" on a few "topics"...anal, oral, regular sex, group sex...etc, but I will save SOME for other topic postings in days to come. For right now, let's stick to one of the ANAL/pegging ideas we had.

I sure hope someone who is into making adult porn will be reading this...since we had all seven men and four of the seven woman who said they had "never seen this in any adult DVD, but thought it would be "sexy".

There are LOTS of porn movies now, where a guy is getting "pegged" by a woman, but in EVERY case we have seen, including the now "somewhat famous" "Bend Over Boyfriend" series, that may have started it all, the guys always seem "subservient" and the activity seems like "domination". It may be for SOME couples, but for those in our group who DO peg, and from the ideas I see here on EF Forum, many STRAIGHT, NON SUB males enjoy it. In short, they do NOT "act like they are being "feminized", they are NOT into "sucking the toy penis" while the woman is wearing it. They ARE into creative anal with their woman and enjoying the feeling of penetration and anal/prostate stimulation...while staying completely HETERO.

Why is THAT never shown in a video. IN fact, while "pegging" their guys, the woman in our group tend to "hand job" them off, or finish them off orally. Either way, it is hetero play, all the way. Why is THAT never seen in these videos??

In short, we want to see masculine men, and their female lovers, enjoying hetero sex, with pegging as PART of that.

SO.....anyone else think this idea is one YOU would want to see in some adult movie??? Voting is private, so be honest. less

Our "Friday" free speaking dinner group met last night, and after an hour of talking politics, we finally got off that blood pressure raising topic and got around to our favorite...sex. Now, we had a good size group this time (varies from 2 to 14 couples), and last night we had seven couples. We got to talking about things we see in Porn (we all watch it as couples) and things we have "never seen" but would find "really sexy..a turn on". Conversation got REALLY explicit and pretty wild, I must admit.

When all was said and done, we had "consensus" on a few "topics"...anal, oral, regular sex, group sex...etc, but I will save SOME for other topic postings in days to come. For right now, let's stick to one of the ANAL/pegging ideas we had.

I sure hope someone who is into making adult porn will be reading this...since we had all seven men and four of the seven woman who said they had "never seen this in any adult DVD, but thought it would be "sexy".

There are LOTS of porn movies now, where a guy is getting "pegged" by a woman, but in EVERY case we have seen, including the now "somewhat famous" "Bend Over Boyfriend" series, that may have started it all, the guys always seem "subservient" and the activity seems like "domination". It may be for SOME couples, but for those in our group who DO peg, and from the ideas I see here on EF Forum, many STRAIGHT, NON SUB males enjoy it. In short, they do NOT "act like they are being "feminized", they are NOT into "sucking the toy penis" while the woman is wearing it. They ARE into creative anal with their woman and enjoying the feeling of penetration and anal/prostate stimulation...while staying completely HETERO.

Why is THAT never shown in a video. IN fact, while "pegging" their guys, the woman in our group tend to "hand job" them off, or finish them off orally. Either way, it is hetero play, all the way. Why is THAT never seen in these videos??

In short, we want to see masculine men, and their female lovers, enjoying hetero sex, with pegging as PART of that.

SO.....anyone else think this idea is one YOU would want to see in some adult movie??? Voting is private, so be honest. less