Should EF stop carrying products with phthalates?

Contributor: bayosgirl bayosgirl
Recently I read that another adult online retailer has a policy of not carrying products with phthalates. Do you think EF should follow suit? Why or why not?
Answers (public voting - your screen name will appear in the results):
Yes, they should not carry products with phthalates
Ms. Spice , Beatitude , Coralbell , tickle me pink , Wild Orchid , EJ , tim1724
7  (11%)
No, customers have the responsibility to make an informed choice
DeliciousSurprise , Sir , Ansley , Kayla , PiratePrincess , alliegator , Nissa Nissa , dudemeister , Howells , Waterfall , MaryExy , Ryuson , anonymouse58 , ToyTimeTim , toxie m , indiglo , Linga , Lucidity , ZenaidaMacroura , wetone123 , Pixel , Lily Night , null , Ghost , Kissaki , Shellz31 , Kake aka PoeticErotica , LikeSunshineDust , padmeamidala , Valentinka , Ninja Bunny , Maiden , kelaaa33wish , ToyingCouple , SiNn , Kindred , A Closet Slut (aka nipplepeople) , loveshocks , newfoundlust , TameTemptress , melissa1973 , Yaoi Pervette (deleted) , The Curious Couple , Wondermom , darthkitt3n , Anjulie , l'amour , CoffeeCup , married with children , El-Jaro , Jobthingy , Beck , angel142stx , ellejay , ThoughtsAblaze
55  (89%)
Total votes: 62
Poll is closed
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Contributor: Sir Sir
Some people like such toys because they're cheaper, and you always have the option of using a condom.
07/29/2011
Contributor: PiratePrincess PiratePrincess
I feel like they should always have the option for those that want it.
07/29/2011
Contributor: Ms. Spice Ms. Spice
i personally think they should. Babeland did and they are still able to sell cheap and good quality toys. phthalates have no business in the nether regions anyway; they've been linked to so many nasty things
07/29/2011
Contributor: Waterfall Waterfall
I think that some people may buy a toy with phthalates because they are cheaper, and we don't want to force people to buy more expensive toys.
07/29/2011
Contributor: Ryuson Ryuson
I feel like it is up to the person to read the ingredients, but I do feel that Eden should put a big, red warning!
07/29/2011
Contributor: kjkitty kjkitty
People should be able to buy what they want. Personally though, the first thing I do every time I search for a new toy is click the "phthalates free" box.

The other day I forgot to and I started to get really excited about all the new toys, before realize that those are the ones I had left out of previous searches because of the materials they are made of.
07/29/2011
Contributor: indiglo indiglo
I think it's up to each consumer to decide what they will and will not use and why.
07/29/2011
Contributor: Linga Linga
Some people don't care about them, so why stop selling them. If anything i think manufacturers should start giving more phthalates options in their toys. There are so many jelly toys I would love in silicone and I know they would sell a lot of them if they came in silicone even if they cost a little more.
07/29/2011
Contributor: potstickers potstickers
I think they should just be outlawed entirely. I think most of the problem is in tiny sex shops where customers don't get the kind of awesome information that EF provides.
07/29/2011
Contributor: MaryExy MaryExy
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Originally posted by potstickers
I think they should just be outlawed entirely. I think most of the problem is in tiny sex shops where customers don't get the kind of awesome information that EF provides.
I'd like it if they were outlawed, then companies would maybe start making some of the 50-function rabbits and such in nicer materials (there are some that I've only seen in jelly.) In the meantime, though, I wouldn't say that Eden should just stop selling them. Maybe suggest getting condoms with them if you put them in your cart?
07/30/2011
Contributor: Pixel Pixel
Quote:
Originally posted by Ryuson
I feel like it is up to the person to read the ingredients, but I do feel that Eden should put a big, red warning!
My thoughts exactly. It's fine if you want to carry the products, but I think a warning as to the possible issues with using that type of toy would be more ethical.
07/30/2011
Contributor: null null
Quote:
Originally posted by Ryuson
I feel like it is up to the person to read the ingredients, but I do feel that Eden should put a big, red warning!
Yes, warnings are definitely needed.
07/30/2011
Contributor: bayosgirl bayosgirl
I'm still not sure how I feel...and it's MY topic, lol. On one hand I know phthalates have been linked to all kinds of health problems and there ARE affordable silicone alternatives, but I've always been a believer of consumer choice. I definitely think they should put a warning at least.
07/30/2011
Contributor: Shellz31 Shellz31
Personally, if people want to buy toys with phthalates in them - that's their business.

I don't think it should be Eden's responsibility to do away with such toys. If anyone should be truly considering the health of toy users, it's the manufacturers and health officials. But they aren't going to do anything about it cause they make a killing out of selling cheaper products.

I'm with LingaLoo - there's so many jelly toys that I'd love if only they were at least TPR! It can't cost that much more to make them out of a decent material and I'd be more than willing to pay some extra!
07/30/2011
Contributor: tickle me pink tickle me pink
I honestly think they should stop. Eden seems to take a lot of pride in all the safe toys they sell, but there are still so many unsafe ones. Personally I think that toys with phthalates should be banned altogether, but I know that will never happen.

And I also have a selfish reason. There's nothing more frustrating than browsing for a new toy and thinking "Oh, that one looks perfect!" only to find out that it's made of jelly or something else equally unsafe. I can't tell you how many times this has happened.
07/30/2011
Contributor: MaryExy MaryExy
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Originally posted by tickle me pink
I honestly think they should stop. Eden seems to take a lot of pride in all the safe toys they sell, but there are still so many unsafe ones. Personally I think that toys with phthalates should be banned altogether, but I know that will never ... more
That feeling is exactly why I've just started only having silicone, glass, metal, and plastic selected before I start browsing toys in a category. If I don't see what I want, I'll start adding TPR, Silicone composites, etc. I get too disappointed when I see those bright, happy colors that jelly comes in, especially the transparent ones And has anyone seen one of the thrusting or triple-stimulator rabbits in pure silicone? It's ridiculous!
07/30/2011
Contributor: Wild Orchid Wild Orchid
If a shop carries something it wants to sell it - as quickly and to as many customers as possible. Having things in stock that don't sell is bad for business especially if they start yellowing and decomposing like jelly tends to do. So it's not in the shop owners interest to discourage customers from buying stock that is unsafe. So there won't be any big warnings.

If a shop goes phthalates-free it can experience difficulties because some consumers will go elsewhere. The only way to come out on top is to use the "we did it for your health" line to bring on more consumers.

To those who voted no: what's your position on carrying desensitizing anal lubes? And selling them to people who will use them on their partners butt-hole (not their own!).
07/30/2011
Contributor: SiNn SiNn
Quote:
Originally posted by bayosgirl
Recently I read that another adult online retailer has a policy of not carrying products with phthalates. Do you think EF should follow suit? Why or why not?
Ithink people should be able to pick and chose even if it isnt so safe we are all adults and we should be able to chose for our selves
07/30/2011
Contributor: newfoundlust newfoundlust
Quote:
Originally posted by bayosgirl
Recently I read that another adult online retailer has a policy of not carrying products with phthalates. Do you think EF should follow suit? Why or why not?
We have mixed feelings. While we do not want to encourage an outright ban, we do think that at this point all retailers should have a clear warning on products carrying phthalates. However, ultimately it is governed by two entities, the buying public and the manufacturers. If the public quits buying them within a year you will see the manufacturers quit making them.
08/01/2011
Contributor: tim1724 tim1724
Quote:
Originally posted by bayosgirl
Recently I read that another adult online retailer has a policy of not carrying products with phthalates. Do you think EF should follow suit? Why or why not?
I wouldn't drop them all at once, but I'd recommend that EF stop stocking any new products with phthalates, and over time phase out older products which have them.

Most manufacturers seem to be adding phthalate-free product lines to their catalogs so I imagine a gradual phaseout wouldn't be too hard.
08/01/2011
Contributor: Yaoi Pervette (deleted) Yaoi Pervette (deleted)
I think it is important for consumers to know what they are buying. I don't think retailers should have to stop carrying them, because some people may want these items. People should take the time to learn about the materials of toys if it concerns them so much. I think EF provides a lot of good info on the materials used in products they carry.
08/01/2011
Contributor: Wondermom Wondermom
its up to the customer to research and choose what they want.
08/01/2011
Contributor: The Curious Couple The Curious Couple
As much as I don't like the idea of products with phthalates, I think it's up to the customers to decide what they want to buy.
08/01/2011
Contributor: Anjulie Anjulie
Quote:
Originally posted by Sir
Some people like such toys because they're cheaper, and you always have the option of using a condom.
Agreed, people should have the option.
08/01/2011
Contributor: married with children married with children
should supermarkets stop selling food with too much fat or salt? same kind of question.
EF provides the info about what the toys are made from, customers have to make a decision when picking items.
08/02/2011