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Contributor: Mistress M. Mistress M.
I recently have ran into a large portion of reviews where they have copy and pasted the toy specs into their review instead of putting it into their own words. When I was taught to review, I was told to never copy and paste things like this into a review.


So, go ahead and scold me if you think that my opinion of this is wrong. I just feel like it makes Eden look unprofessional.
11/26/2013
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Contributor: Lilith Bealove Lilith Bealove
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Originally posted by Mistress M.
I recently have ran into a large portion of reviews where they have copy and pasted the toy specs into their review instead of putting it into their own words. When I was taught to review, I was told to never copy and paste things like this into a ... more
I agree! I'm unsure if I am guilty of this. But I think it is extremely unprofessional and I believe that it may even fall under plagiarism? Might it be reportable? Or is it just something that some people do?

I came across a couple one time who shared reviews. I'm not sure how they got away with it. But judging from the quality of their reviews and the fact that it was WORD FOR WORD I believe they were point farmers. I know THAT is a reportable offense. But unsure about copy/pasting specs. =/ Wish I was of more help.
11/26/2013
Contributor: Ansley Ansley
It's definitely a problem, thanks for bringing it to my attention. I'll be addressing this with the community very soon, just hang in there for now.
11/27/2013
Contributor: Sincerely yours, N Sincerely yours, N
I wasn't aware that this was against the rules. I saw some of the really high ranking members do it in theirs, so I thought that it was okay. By this, I refer to copying the product's size and such.
11/27/2013
Contributor: Mistress M. Mistress M.
It always has been, and it is one of those things a mentor should teach you not to do, and an editor should never let get published. What it looks like we have here is not enough mentoring, and no editors really paying attention to what they put the OK on.
11/27/2013
Contributor: edeneve edeneve
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Originally posted by Mistress M.
It always has been, and it is one of those things a mentor should teach you not to do, and an editor should never let get published. What it looks like we have here is not enough mentoring, and no editors really paying attention to what they put the ... more
I so agree here!!! where are there any good reviews, now, any way?
11/28/2013
Contributor: Mistress M. Mistress M.
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Originally posted by edeneve
I so agree here!!! where are there any good reviews, now, any way?
It seems like they are few and far between these days. Text speak has gotten popular even on a computer. And smiley faces. Can't stand a smiley face in a review. I can be a lot more picky about things then most.
11/29/2013
Contributor: Sincerely yours, N Sincerely yours, N
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Originally posted by Mistress M.
It always has been, and it is one of those things a mentor should teach you not to do, and an editor should never let get published. What it looks like we have here is not enough mentoring, and no editors really paying attention to what they put the ... more
Clearly you don't see what horrible state we get these reviews in. Half of the time, there are so many run ons and fragments that I can't figure out what in the world is going on. What we need is the ability to send reviews back to the writers with comments to have them fix the major errors.
11/29/2013
Contributor: edeneve edeneve
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Originally posted by Sincerely yours, N
Clearly you don't see what horrible state we get these reviews in. Half of the time, there are so many run ons and fragments that I can't figure out what in the world is going on. What we need is the ability to send reviews back to the ... more
isn't that what editing is for as well as not advancing to advanced reviewer until one writes a decent review?
11/29/2013
Contributor: Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by edeneve
isn't that what editing is for as well as not advancing to advanced reviewer until one writes a decent review?
An editor's job is to fix simple grammatical and spelling errors that are overlooked in the author's process of writing a review. Even the best writers need proofreaders.

But they shouldn't have to write a coherent review for the person in trying to edit the piece.

Again, I'm working on processes to improve these issues. I will release the changes when I have them approved and finalized.
11/29/2013
Contributor: Wicked Wahine Wicked Wahine
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Originally posted by Ansley
An editor's job is to fix simple grammatical and spelling errors that are overlooked in the author's process of writing a review. Even the best writers need proofreaders.

But they shouldn't have to write a coherent review for the ... more
Thanks, Stormy!

It was hard to read "...no editors really paying attention to what they put the OK on." as I have busted my ass editing since June doing the maximum allowed per day almost every day since! (And I know I didn't allow copy and paste, in fact I insist all citing their sources if using quotes.) I think people should know that we have a LOT of new members and new editors were just started about a month or so ago, before that it was mainly just me. Stormy busted ass doing as many as she could when time allowed and Charmedtomeetyou and Airen Wolf pitched in as they could a few times a month (if I missed someone, I apologize). So, the new people are bound to have a few who don't know that emoticons are not acceptable or that the title's should be 6 words or less. Please just report any problems you see in a review to the editor of that review and/or tell Stormy and it will help her identify who needs help editing or needs to be removed.

Just realize we are proofreaders: we check for plagiarism, facts, spelling, punctuation & grammar. Some may offer help to the reviewer, but it's not part of the job. If you see a review that suggests something unwise, but not factually incorrect, it is not the editor's job to change that. However, you may certainly go ahead and comment on it in the comment section and let it affect your rating of the review.

PS, in case people didn't know, the mentor program was stopped back in June along with the other changes that occurred. (There is a thread somewhere that has members offering to do mentoring on the side for anyone interested which is nice as a lot are still interested in this.) My understanding is that the program needed to be reworked. There have been many changes and if anyone has questions they can ask me -- and of course they can always ask Stormy.
11/29/2013
Contributor: Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by Wicked Wahine
Thanks, Stormy!

It was hard to read "...no editors really paying attention to what they put the OK on." as I have busted my ass editing since June doing the maximum allowed per day almost every day since! (And I know I didn't ... more
Thanks for offering your assistance. If a review contains misinformation, the user should gently be informed of this in the comments section of the review.

As always, admins (myself and Ilya) should be the first point of contact if there are issues or questions about policies regarding anything on site.

Fred is aware of the desire for the mentor program to be resurrected and I have been diligently working on various ideas and as soon as he and I meet and come to agreements on these ideas, I will update the community.
11/29/2013
Contributor: Rossie Rossie
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Originally posted by edeneve
isn't that what editing is for as well as not advancing to advanced reviewer until one writes a decent review?
Hey Edeneve, you do know it's up to us, the advanced reviewers, to decide whether a basic level reviewer gets upgraded or not, right? The editors, or even the admins, basically have no control over who gets to move up the ladder. And obviously, there are advanced reviewers out there who have low standards for reviews and allowed those not-so-ready reviewers to advance.
11/29/2013