The New Intimacy

EDEN LIT WRITERS CLUB MEETING: September 12, 2011 at 7pm EST

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Contributor: Woman China Woman China
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Originally posted by Antipova
My dad keeps offering to have mine removed for me... as in actually saying he will pay for laser removal.

I'm always puzzled---I mean, sure, if I didn't have it I wouldn't go get a new one tomorrow. But if someone was handing me ... more
Almost as if he doesn't accept you being you?
09/12/2011
Contributor: Spoken Pandora Spoken Pandora
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
LOL I think it's in the parent's manual to hit where it hurts. I get the whole "what if your daughter becomes promiscuous because you have two men in your life?" and even "How will you feel when your daughter does to you what ... more
I haven't figured out how to overlook it and I get the talk about my daughter being bi now because of me. Some of my friends talk about the whole, "what if your daughter wants to submit and get beat" crap constantly or "does she know what you write" and of course does she know you write about sex and toys"...I can't win...lol
09/12/2011
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
(EF Review Program Mentor)
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Originally posted by Spoken Pandora
That sucks. My mom says that she understands that my body is my temple full of canvases but why do I have to paint on them all...Im like whatever...in the same breath she wants me to take her to get one, and then she makes these jokes about them that ... more
I lust after inking my body but I have to really really feel amazing about the subject matter before I would etch it permanently on my body....I want to take the time and really get comfortable with the idea like you all did. That and I'm allergic to pain....
09/12/2011
Contributor: Spoken Pandora Spoken Pandora
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Originally posted by Woman China
I get that a lot too. I've twelve tattoos, and no one can beleive that I have that many as I seem so clean cut.

But I think of it like this. I might look clean cut. But that is just the surface. Under it all I wear the funkyest knickers ... more
lol...I love it!
09/12/2011
Contributor: Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
That was my one desire for this club....to be a place where we can write some of the hardest work and discuss them over a beer, ya know?
Well done, then, I think you've got it!
09/12/2011
Contributor: Spoken Pandora Spoken Pandora
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
That was my one desire for this club....to be a place where we can write some of the hardest work and discuss them over a beer, ya know?
Yes and I am so thankful for it. That's what I talk about when I share info about the club to my friends. So many writers need a safe haven like this.
09/12/2011
Contributor: Spoken Pandora Spoken Pandora
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Originally posted by Woman China
Ohhh... mental note to self... must go back and read all of Pandora's work!!!! For I do agree with you here!!!
I want all of your feedback Woman...
09/12/2011
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
(EF Review Program Mentor)
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Originally posted by Spoken Pandora
I haven't figured out how to overlook it and I get the talk about my daughter being bi now because of me. Some of my friends talk about the whole, "what if your daughter wants to submit and get beat" crap constantly or "does she ... more
I tell then that of course my kids don't know about my sex life...do yours? Mine know I write for EF and that I have sex toys that's all they need to know!
09/12/2011
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by Spoken Pandora
I haven't figured out how to overlook it and I get the talk about my daughter being bi now because of me. Some of my friends talk about the whole, "what if your daughter wants to submit and get beat" crap constantly or "does she ... more
People are just idiots from what I've been able to tell. There's nothing wrong with your daughter enjoying being with both sexes if she's old enough, there's nothing wrong with anybody wanting to be submissive in a relationship, and there's nothing wrong with body art.


Which actually just made me flash back to an argument I had gotten into with an ex of mine. He liked my tattoos sometimes, but only in specific situations. We were talking about tattoos in general and I asked him if he would ever get one and his answer was no, because he wanted to be a good role model for his kids. I ripped him a new one for that, especially since at that point he was claiming to want to spend the rest of his life with me and have kids with me and I had multiple tattoos.
09/12/2011
Contributor: Woman China Woman China
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Originally posted by Spoken Pandora
I haven't figured out how to overlook it and I get the talk about my daughter being bi now because of me. Some of my friends talk about the whole, "what if your daughter wants to submit and get beat" crap constantly or "does she ... more
It is a mystery. And that is the bottom line.

I beleive as long as your child/children understand the whole situation, they are better informed to understand what goes on in their mind and in their bodies.
09/12/2011
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by Antipova
Well done, then, I think you've got it!
I would agree with that!
09/12/2011
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
(EF Review Program Mentor)
Quote:
Originally posted by Spoken Pandora
I haven't figured out how to overlook it and I get the talk about my daughter being bi now because of me. Some of my friends talk about the whole, "what if your daughter wants to submit and get beat" crap constantly or "does she ... more
Also I would glow with pride and thank them for the compliment...being Bi-sexual and comfortable with your sexuality is amazing and any parent 'responsible' for this outcome is doing something right!!
09/12/2011
Contributor: Woman China Woman China
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Originally posted by Spoken Pandora
I want all of your feedback Woman...
Cheeky Pandora!!!! If there is a place to comment, and if I read your work at the computer? I always comment!!!!
09/12/2011
Contributor: Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by Woman China
Almost as if he doesn't accept you being you?
Perhaps... but I suppose that's natural for a parent. I don't let it bother me too much.

And, yes, Airen, make sure you feel amazing about the subject matter. The fact that mine has such an elegant and interesting story is why I'm still happy with mine, even now that I wish I hadn't actually etched it on my skin. It would have made a fine wall-hanging...

On the bright side, telling the story lets me filter a prospective partner, because if they're not interested in the themes of the story they're not going to be interested in much of what I ever think.
09/12/2011
Contributor: Spoken Pandora Spoken Pandora
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
I tell then that of course my kids don't know about my sex life...do yours? Mine know I write for EF and that I have sex toys that's all they need to know!
She doesn't know about my sex life. People just don't understand how I keep it from her. She knows I write content that she can't read. When my book hit the first thing she said was please write a book I can read. So I'm working on some middle-grade fantasy for her that she is in love with. As far as the toys she doesn't know. She has a running joke that I am an arms dealer from all of the boxes I get...lol
09/12/2011
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
(EF Review Program Mentor)
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Originally posted by Woman China
Cheeky Pandora!!!! If there is a place to comment, and if I read your work at the computer? I always comment!!!!
She does...she always does! It's one of the best things about her
09/12/2011
Contributor: Woman China Woman China
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
I lust after inking my body but I have to really really feel amazing about the subject matter before I would etch it permanently on my body....I want to take the time and really get comfortable with the idea like you all did. That and I'm ... more
Stay away from your lower ankle. I passed out, threw up and broke the man's chair. Yet, all the rest of my tattoos on my feet, tickled and did not hurt.
09/12/2011
Contributor: Spoken Pandora Spoken Pandora
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Originally posted by Woman China
Cheeky Pandora!!!! If there is a place to comment, and if I read your work at the computer? I always comment!!!!
Awesome
09/12/2011
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
(EF Review Program Mentor)
Ok so we are heading into October for our next meeting, what should our topics be? Spooky, nostalgic cause it's harvest time, sizzling cause the air has a bit of a nip to it?
09/12/2011
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
(EF Review Program Mentor)
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Originally posted by Woman China
Stay away from your lower ankle. I passed out, threw up and broke the man's chair. Yet, all the rest of my tattoos on my feet, tickled and did not hurt.
Good gawd thanks for the heads up! I am crossing ankle tats off my list then....
09/12/2011
Contributor: Spoken Pandora Spoken Pandora
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
Also I would glow with pride and thank them for the compliment...being Bi-sexual and comfortable with your sexuality is amazing and any parent 'responsible' for this outcome is doing something right!!
I love that...Im tucking that one away for future use. I think she is great and I am proud that she even came out about it. AT her age I was so damn confused that I didn't talk about anything. I didn't come out til my mid to early twenties.
09/12/2011
Contributor: Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by Woman China
Stay away from your lower ankle. I passed out, threw up and broke the man's chair. Yet, all the rest of my tattoos on my feet, tickled and did not hurt.
My advice for avoiding pain is get things only with short strokes. Mine had one long line, and that's the only part that made me shudder. (I made him take it in strokes to close the shape.)
09/12/2011
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
(EF Review Program Mentor)
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Originally posted by Spoken Pandora
I love that...Im tucking that one away for future use. I think she is great and I am proud that she even came out about it. AT her age I was so damn confused that I didn't talk about anything. I didn't come out til my mid to early twenties.
See? You've done your job..your child is comfortable with herself and trusts you enough to share it with you. BRAVO!!
09/12/2011
Contributor: Spoken Pandora Spoken Pandora
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
Ok so we are heading into October for our next meeting, what should our topics be? Spooky, nostalgic cause it's harvest time, sizzling cause the air has a bit of a nip to it?
I love spooky and any type of harvest theme
09/12/2011
Contributor: Woman China Woman China
Quote:
Originally posted by Airen Wolf
Also I would glow with pride and thank them for the compliment...being Bi-sexual and comfortable with your sexuality is amazing and any parent 'responsible' for this outcome is doing something right!!
Besides, is not a parents job to accept that their children are happy????

And if that means that they are not confused and worried about what their parents think of them, and are able to just talk about what they are going through... to me that would mean you are a good parent raising a good kid.

I agree with Airen!!! Thank them for the compliment!
09/12/2011
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by Woman China
Stay away from your lower ankle. I passed out, threw up and broke the man's chair. Yet, all the rest of my tattoos on my feet, tickled and did not hurt.
Ehh, my lower ankle hurt, but didn't make me pass out. My problem with anything below my calves is that they make my legs twitch while I'm getting the tattoo and I have a super hard time keeping still enough for the artist.
09/12/2011
Contributor: Spoken Pandora Spoken Pandora
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
See? You've done your job..your child is comfortable with herself and trusts you enough to share it with you. BRAVO!!
Thanks Airen! Really
09/12/2011
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
(EF Review Program Mentor)
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Originally posted by Antipova
My advice for avoiding pain is get things only with short strokes. Mine had one long line, and that's the only part that made me shudder. (I made him take it in strokes to close the shape.)
Noted!! I think I'd prefer smaller tats with special meaning...at least that's my current thought, could change tomorrow.
09/12/2011
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
Ok so we are heading into October for our next meeting, what should our topics be? Spooky, nostalgic cause it's harvest time, sizzling cause the air has a bit of a nip to it?
Ooh, I like spooky a lot.
09/12/2011
Contributor: Spoken Pandora Spoken Pandora
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Originally posted by Woman China
Besides, is not a parents job to accept that their children are happy????

And if that means that they are not confused and worried about what their parents think of them, and are able to just talk about what they are going through... to me ... more
I will do just that. Thanks guys! I love this club...
09/12/2011