What should be the discussion topic for the January 2012 Eden Photographers meeting?

Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
For the December meeting, long exposures was the runaway winner for the topic to be discussed. Everyone who participated in the meeting seemed to be especially enthralled with the possibilities of adding to or increasing the use of long exposures in their photography. I can only hope that next month's meeting will be as inspiring.

To that end, I will again ask everyone to put in their votes for what the topic of the tutorial will be for the January meeting. So, vote away!
Answers (public voting - your screen name will appear in the results):
Using lines in composing your photo
The Curious Couple , Antipova , Teacookie , slynch , laceypanties , Wyo Daisy , PeaceToTheMiddleEast
7  (32%)
Cropping photos
philly , Elizabeth freeman , OhMy! , Airekah , mm098 , Kayla , skinhunger , blankthewall , allinonekid , Bignuf , coconut1 , pfoof
12  (55%)
Focusing
Upskirt
1  (5%)
Advanced topics in long exposures
Beneath The Bed
1  (5%)
Filters
Other (if for no other reason than it can be included in next month's poll)
aliceinthehole
1  (5%)
Total votes: 22
Poll is closed
12/21/2011
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Contributor: philly philly
cropping
12/21/2011
Contributor: Airekah Airekah
Quote:
Originally posted by Vaccinium
For the December meeting, long exposures was the runaway winner for the topic to be discussed. Everyone who participated in the meeting seemed to be especially enthralled with the possibilities of adding to or increasing the use of long exposures in ... more
excited to see the results.
12/23/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
Looks like Cropping is the leader out of the gate. However, last month's topic had far more votes than what cropping currently has, so this one ain't over yet.
12/23/2011
Contributor: The Curious Couple The Curious Couple
I voted against cropping photos because I crop as little as possible when I take a picture. I voted for using lines in photo composition, because I find it to be a very interesting topic.
12/25/2011
Contributor: Bignuf Bignuf
Quote:
Originally posted by Vaccinium
For the December meeting, long exposures was the runaway winner for the topic to be discussed. Everyone who participated in the meeting seemed to be especially enthralled with the possibilities of adding to or increasing the use of long exposures in ... more
People tend to crop plain old "topic of focus to center", which is certainly NOT how many pro's do it. Cropping is thus a GREAT topic to cover.
12/29/2011
Contributor: Bignuf Bignuf
I will make a suggestion for FUTURE consideration too. Something I have NEVER seen discussed even in photo magazines. I would like someone to do a COMPARE and CONTRAST settings from old 35mm cameras( which a lot of us knew) to Digital. The digital cameras use the same terms, but in fact the issues are different. I never worried about excess pixilation with zoom on my 35mm or "noise" from using a higher ASA film speed!!!!

How do you reconcile these terms and deal with the issues unique to DIGITAL...which we pretty much all use now, or will soon, as film will be as hard to find as DODO bird eggs.
12/29/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
Quote:
Originally posted by Bignuf
I will make a suggestion for FUTURE consideration too. Something I have NEVER seen discussed even in photo magazines. I would like someone to do a COMPARE and CONTRAST settings from old 35mm cameras( which a lot of us knew) to Digital. The digital ... more
That's an interesting point. There certainly are differences - and a few significant ones - between the two formats.

As for the two specific examples you gave, though.....

Pixelation while zooming is only a problem if you are using digital zoom. If you are having a pixelation problem using optical zoom, the problem is probably with your individual camera. I always tell people with point-and-shoot cameras to disable their digital zoom. Although it has gotten a lot better over the past 15 years, it still isn't worth the extra reach if the photos come out looking lousy.

You may not have had noise from higher ASA/ISO film, but you did have grain. Although grain can look good in certain shots whereas noise never does, you still have the same positive relation between ISO (whether for film or as a digital setting) and the amount of grain/noise. Considering for a lot of photography you want as little grain or noise as possible, working your cameras settings will be conceptually the same. If you want grain and not noise, you're pretty much out of luck except if you want to add it in during software processing. However, if you want as little grain/noise as possible, you take the shot the same way whether it is digital or film: get lots of light on your subject and/or shoot with a small aperture (large f-stop)/slow shutter speed.

There are a few other differences as well, notably how to expose your photos to maximize information, the differences in sensor sizes among digital cameras relative to the 35 mm standard, and stuck pixels in really long digital exposures, and understanding them would definitely help in the transition from film to digital.
01/02/2012
Contributor: aliceinthehole aliceinthehole
Quote:
Originally posted by Vaccinium
For the December meeting, long exposures was the runaway winner for the topic to be discussed. Everyone who participated in the meeting seemed to be especially enthralled with the possibilities of adding to or increasing the use of long exposures in ... more
shooting snowy scenes! nighttime snowy scenes... cool-colored photographs... etc.
01/03/2012