Feedback Request: Clubs & Workshops

Contributor: Gary Gary
Hello Everyone,

I would greatly appreciate it if you all could take a minute here and give me some basic feedback here on the current state of Club & Workshops.

(Vote for all choices that apply to you. Also, please feel free to leave any comments, ideas, or suggestions.)
Answers (private voting - your screen name will NOT appear in the results):
-- How do you feel about the number of Clubs & Workshops?
2
Not Enough Clubs – The More the Better
12
Just Enough Club – Variety is Good, but there are Plenty
20
Too Many Clubs – It is overwhelming
5
.
2
,
2
-- I am willing to attend Clubs & Workshops...
21
10am – 12pm EST
5
12pm – 2pm EST
7
2pm – 4pm EST
5
4pm – 6pm EST
7
6pm – 8pm EST
19
8pm – 10pm EST
30
- and -
6
Mondays
28
Tuesdays
27
Wednesdays
28
Thursdays
25
Fridays
21
Saturdays
10
Sundays
14
Total votes: 296 (40 voters)
Poll is closed
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Contributor: ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
I think that more clubs can be a good thing. There are many walks of life here so I see no reason why there can't be a club for everyone.

As far as times go, I am wide open. I prefer them to be a later in the evening, but that is only cuz the kids are in bed and I have no worries there.
03/07/2011
Contributor: namelesschaos namelesschaos
Honestly, my current situation leave me available most days of the week and at most times, but I prefer Tuesdays and Wednesdays and between 7:00-10:00 p.m.
03/07/2011
Contributor: Illusional Illusional
My class schedule makes it impossible to attend anything M-Thursday in the evenings.
03/07/2011
Contributor: Kindred Kindred
I think variety and choice are great as long as their is someone to take the lead and others are interested. Personally, there's already too many I'm interested in and have to pick and choose. My best times are 8-10 PM EST on weeknights.
03/07/2011
Contributor: P'Gell P'Gell
Evening clubs are nearly impossible for me. I have a family, and dinner to prepare and then I have to spend time with My Man. Even one daytime club that I am interested in would be great.

I simply can't do evenings. Or late afternoons.
03/07/2011
Contributor: Redboxbaby Redboxbaby
I am all for morning/early afternoons Mon-Friday. Evenings are only OK 8-10 Mon-Thursday.

I am glad there are more clubs; however, I'm feeling overwhelmed (just a bit) because there are many I would like to attend, but I feel I am having a hard time fitting the club stuff in around family time. I can only commit to interrupting family time twice a month tops.

I have to keep the husband happy...he is the one supporting my Eden habit right now! You can see it from my point of view, right?
03/07/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
As much as I enjoy the meetings, it's just so hard to make time for some of them, especially living on the West Coast since they occur either during dinner or during dinner prep. I'd love to see more clubs move away from the meetings as the primary/sole manner in which the club members can correspond. I know there is always the possibility of discourse on the individual club's subforum, but that doesn't seem to be utilized very much (probably because the posts get buried among all the other forum posts).

As such, my feedback would be I'd like to see clubs be less dependent on the monthly meetings, and augment it with a structure so that people can interact at their convenience. I'm trying to do that with Eden Photographers, in that there are articles people can read when it is convenient and the tumblr blog that will serve as the home for photo critiquing (also usable at club members' convenience). It would also be nice if there was a way for the club subfora to stand alone so that the posts there don't get drowned by all the other discussions, but I'm at a loss to suggest a mechanism that would work better than how things are currently.

I don't see the number of clubs being an issue, and I think there is room for other clubs as well.
03/07/2011
Contributor: PussyGalore PussyGalore
Quote:
Originally posted by P'Gell
Evening clubs are nearly impossible for me. I have a family, and dinner to prepare and then I have to spend time with My Man. Even one daytime club that I am interested in would be great.

I simply can't do evenings. Or late afternoons.
I'm in the same boat, P'Gell.
03/09/2011
Contributor: danellejohns danellejohns
I couldn't bring myself to vote on this one but did want to throw my two cents worth in. I would like to see what the community as a whole would like to see for clubs, so maybe more involvement in the meetings can take place. (For example- see what people would like to see, not a poll of chosen items but them posting instead their ideas).

I can also see the problem with some of the times, I have also fallen into the trap of having to make dinner while missing a meeting. Or trying to multi-task through it and end up lost in the conversation.

It would be nice if there could be two meetings that meet as opposed to the just one. Something like one during the day and one at night to make it more convient to attend. That could happen with a simple "what is the best time for everyone" question and possibly having two different hosts.

It would be nice to have the "meetings" be active after the fact as well. There usually are ones that miss the initial meeting and post questions or ideas, that go unread and unresponded to.

Feel free to tell me to shut my yap, I have been thinking and posting my thoughts way to much today.
03/09/2011
Contributor: leatherlover leatherlover
I didn't vote on a time, because my schedule is just crazy and changing all the time. But I just joined Porn Club last month, and really enjoyed it.
03/09/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
Quote:
Originally posted by danellejohns
I couldn't bring myself to vote on this one but did want to throw my two cents worth in. I would like to see what the community as a whole would like to see for clubs, so maybe more involvement in the meetings can take place. (For example- see ... more
Well, everyone is welcome to attend a CEC meeting OR leave feedback on the CEC thread regarding their input on the clubs.

I think one of the biggest problems with this is that most people don't feel that they can attend or give input on the CEC and that's simply not the case. You don't even have to attend every week. Simply come when you have an idea you'd like feedback on.

I could easily hold two meetings a month (one daytime and one evening) since I'm a SAHM. Not everyone has that freedom though. I also don't know how EF feels about that.
03/09/2011
Contributor: danellejohns danellejohns
Quote:
Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
Well, everyone is welcome to attend a CEC meeting OR leave feedback on the CEC thread regarding their input on the clubs.

I think one of the biggest problems with this is that most people don't feel that they can attend or give input on ... more
That is true I have been to one, I think, and had to ask before it started if I could attend. I wonder what might be giving the impression that it is not open to all, when it actually is.

I am fairly new to the site, so even when I did attend, I did not contribute to the discussion. I think it is a bit intimidating to some, when most attending on already know each other and have a connection. Add that to the fact that they also seem to know how everything works, new people might feel like they would be intruding (not sure that is the right word).

I am eager to hear some of the ideas that come out of this.
03/09/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
Quote:
Originally posted by danellejohns
That is true I have been to one, I think, and had to ask before it started if I could attend. I wonder what might be giving the impression that it is not open to all, when it actually is.

I am fairly new to the site, so even when I did attend, ... more
I never asked whether I could attend the CEC meetings. As far as I know, they are open to everyone (if not, then I seriously crashed the party). It took me a few times before I felt comfortable at the CEC meetings and felt that I had much to add to the discussion. I know when I first started attending, everyone there made me feel welcome already, although I did feel like an outsider for the reasons you mentioned. I guess all I can say is that if you do have the interest in attending, please do, and it shouldn't be too long before you start feeling comfortable.
03/09/2011
Contributor: danellejohns danellejohns
Quote:
Originally posted by Vaccinium
I never asked whether I could attend the CEC meetings. As far as I know, they are open to everyone (if not, then I seriously crashed the party). It took me a few times before I felt comfortable at the CEC meetings and felt that I had much to add to ... more
Oops, I meant to say that "I asked (for permisson) if I could attend" because I thought it was a closed event at first. I really ought to take a second look before I post things.

I plan on making the next one for sure, it is actually just as fun to sit on the sidelines, I end up learning so much about Eden that way.
03/09/2011
Contributor: Ajax Ajax
I think more clubs and workshops would be wonderful!! Of course we don't want to use up all the workshop ideas too quickly! :p

I voted 4 - 10 pm every day, but it really just depends what shift I get scheduled for. right now I'm on days so those times work best for me, but I switch back and forth between days and nights ever few weeks.

I'm so glad I can go back and read through the posts when I don't make it though I think for workshops that have passed it wouldn't hurt to mention them on facebook or twitter a week or two after they've gone by... "Did you miss our ____ workshop/meeting?" No worries, you can check out what happened here" Maybe you guys already do that and I've just managed not to notice (which wouldn't be the first time )

Annnnyways, I think everyone's doing a great job with all the clubs and workshops, but I wouldn't say no to more!
03/09/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
Quote:
Originally posted by Ajax
I think more clubs and workshops would be wonderful!! Of course we don't want to use up all the workshop ideas too quickly! :p

I voted 4 - 10 pm every day, but it really just depends what shift I get scheduled for. right now I'm on ... more
You can view meeting and workshop wrap-ups at the Eden Clubs and Events Blog. It is also where you can see meeting and workshop announcements, articles, and various other writings of the EF community.
03/09/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
I think an EdenClubs (general) Twitter and/or FB account would be AWESOME! (**Raises hand as volunteer to take that on**)
03/09/2011
Contributor: Alys Alys
Quote:
Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
I think an EdenClubs (general) Twitter and/or FB account would be AWESOME! (**Raises hand as volunteer to take that on**)
I like this idea! Have the accounts leading back to the Eden Clubs blog would be great. I'm not sure that many people are aware that that's out there, and how much they can find on the blog.
03/09/2011
Contributor: DeliciousSurprise DeliciousSurprise
I think it would be great to have a wider array of event/club meeting times so that we could get people involved. Maybe one CEC meeting a month could take place either late at night or early in the afternoon so those on west coast time or people who are unavailable during the early evening.
03/09/2011
Contributor: clp clp
I'm going to bite the bullet and say that I voted on 'too many clubs'. I definitely feel overwhelmed, and while many of the clubs are interesting and appeal to me, I don't have as much initiative to participate as I once did. Perhaps it is not the number of clubs I have issue with, but the way they are conducted.

It annoys me that I always seem to make it to the meetings just a moment too late--I don't get home from work in time, and I work normal business hours! That leaves a bad taste in my mouth and kind of ruins the idea of clubs for me altogether. It would be nice if there were threads that I could follow and be a part of that weren't based on 'meetings'. Part of why I like online forums in the first place is because I can read them on my own time. :\
The rare holiday party? Awesome! The only option I have to participate? Nah, I'll have to pass.

Meetings can be fun, I know they can. For example, I used to enjoy the Naked Readers Club immensely, but I now feel like the discussions are hardly about the books or topics at hand, are dominated with 'hi/bye/congrats on yr GC' posts and the bigger they get, the harder they are to keep up with. I find it to be a true shame that the 'hello everyone!' posts can so easily drown out and divert the honest and passionate post another member may have made just moments beforehand.

20 people talking at once is hard enough to keep up with when its verbal; it just becomes a headache when its threaded. That type of discussion seems best for chatrooms--particularl y when members' post contributions consist of 10 words or less. In this way, the twitter parties ROCKED.

This is only my initial reaction to the request for feedback; I'm not actually an ogre. Diatribe over and out!
03/09/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
Quote:
Originally posted by clp
I'm going to bite the bullet and say that I voted on 'too many clubs'. I definitely feel overwhelmed, and while many of the clubs are interesting and appeal to me, I don't have as much initiative to participate as I once did. Perhaps ... more
I agree that the threads can be hard to follow sometimes. I think it's good when the host of the meeting takes initiative and tries and directs everyone's attention. I've only held one meeting so I don't know if I'm capable of it all the time, but I do try and ask questions throughout the meeting to try and keep everyone on the same page and keep conversation from straying too far from topic. I know Gary and Sam do too.

BUT, and I used capitals because it's a big but (kinda like mine ), BUT I think it's a testament to the community here that we genuinely like to "hang out" on here together. It would be impossible not to have people greeting others or having slightly off topic conversations throughout the thread. Maybe you could skim those posts. It doesn't take long to scroll down and get back to the "meat" of the conversation.
03/09/2011
Contributor: Gary Gary
bump
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Contributor: EdenJP EdenJP
Interesting Poll
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