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Contributor: markeagleone markeagleone
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Originally posted by cherryredhead88
Well it's up to the mentor for the most part. As reviewers we have a 2-3 week deadline, and not a lot happens with it, I just think Eden is a tad lenient on that. To me it is basically stealing if you do not write a review.

I have had ... more
LOL, so me waiting for one of my first students, for over a month is probably an example. I am new to the mentoring thing and kind of begining to think about what I got myself into.
06/02/2011
Contributor: Gary Gary
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Originally posted by Jul!a
We should. I've brought it up before. Gary's all for it. Now we just have to make it happen somehow.
This is a great idea. I will keep asking!
06/02/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
Quote:
Originally posted by cherryredhead88
Well it's up to the mentor for the most part. As reviewers we have a 2-3 week deadline, and not a lot happens with it, I just think Eden is a tad lenient on that. To me it is basically stealing if you do not write a review.

I have had ... more
Seems to me the obvious compromise is for someone to submit 1-2 reviews to their mentor before they are eligible for the free toy review.
06/02/2011
Contributor: markeagleone markeagleone
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Originally posted by Kindred
Sure, why not. Just tell the student up front that you do not participate in the free toy portion. If they do not like it, they do not have to be your student.
LOL, wow cut and dry and to the point, I like that.
06/02/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
I am having one of those weeks where I forget EVERYTHING, do everything wrong, and piss everyone off in the meantime. Today, in particular, has been super stressful and then on top of it, I forgot the meeting!

Thanks for the hugs and lolcats!

(Some people call this "PMS" but I just call it "stress")
06/02/2011
Contributor: Dusk Dusk
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Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
I am having one of those weeks where I forget EVERYTHING, do everything wrong, and piss everyone off in the meantime. Today, in particular, has been super stressful and then on top of it, I forgot the meeting!

Thanks for the hugs and lolcats! ... more
Oh no! It's okay, you're here now. And if you want more hugs, I have a ton in storage. Let me fetch them.
06/02/2011
Contributor: Kindred Kindred
Quote:
Originally posted by Vaccinium
Seems to me the obvious compromise is for someone to submit 1-2 reviews to their mentor before they are eligible for the free toy review.
The danger is that 2 reviews and they're eligible for Advanced status anyway. The incentive for the mentoring program should be to improve your review skills, not to get free toys. Free toys are the incentive of being an Advanced reviewer, which is what you become for graduating from the mentor program.
06/02/2011
Contributor: Wondermom Wondermom
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Originally posted by markeagleone
Is that an option? That sounds like it would weed out more of the less serious students.
perhaps requiring that they do one review with their own toy before joining the mentor program? thats what I did
06/02/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by Dusk
Oh no! It's okay, you're here now. And if you want more hugs, I have a ton in storage. Let me fetch them.
*giggle* Sounds great!
06/02/2011
Contributor: Dusk Dusk
Quote:
Originally posted by Wondermom
perhaps requiring that they do one review with their own toy before joining the mentor program? thats what I did
My mentor asked me if I had any toys that were on EF before she even mentioned the free toy thing if I needed it. Lucky I had just ordered my Gigi <3
06/02/2011
Contributor: Dusk Dusk
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Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
*giggle* Sounds great!
Found them! *glomp*
06/02/2011
Contributor: Kindred Kindred
More and more I like the idea of not participating in the free toy option myself. I'm lucky in that I haven't had an issue with a vanishing student yet, but I'm sure it is bound to happen.
06/02/2011
Contributor: ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
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Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
I am having one of those weeks where I forget EVERYTHING, do everything wrong, and piss everyone off in the meantime. Today, in particular, has been super stressful and then on top of it, I forgot the meeting!

Thanks for the hugs and lolcats! ... more
Just for you.
06/02/2011
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
Quote:
Originally posted by Kindred
More and more I like the idea of not participating in the free toy option myself. I'm lucky in that I haven't had an issue with a vanishing student yet, but I'm sure it is bound to happen.
I've had a few. It's rather frustrating.
06/02/2011
Contributor: Gary Gary
Quote:
Originally posted by markeagleone
LOL, so me waiting for one of my first students, for over a month is probably an example. I am new to the mentoring thing and kind of begining to think about what I got myself into.
A lot of people email me for advise in this situation and always tell them to email the student and give them a specific time frame to respond or complete their assignment, and if they do not respond by then - cancel the class. You gave them a chance, and then were upfront about everything.

Looking back, I should also be telling Mentors to make this clear upfront as well. Tell the students - "If I do not hear from you for 2 weeks, I am going to cancel the class" or "I expect these things..." that seems very fair to me if you are reasonable and upfront.
06/02/2011
Contributor: cherryredhead88 cherryredhead88
Quote:
Originally posted by Wondermom
perhaps requiring that they do one review with their own toy before joining the mentor program? thats what I did
I don't think they would have to do one without the program first (unless they wanted to of course) because I feel like the students greatly benefit from it and they learn the ropes/expectations/etc .

I can't believe that I didn't know the free push assignments were optional. From now on I am only allowing those that work hard and prove themselves that option.
06/02/2011
Contributor: markeagleone markeagleone
Not to put Eden down but this is so that I can say my peace. Please don't take offense.

Since being voted into advanced reviewer status is the fastest way to go, is there any real way to stop people signing up for mentoring just for points.
06/02/2011
Contributor: TacoODoom TacoODoom
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Originally posted by Kindred
Yeah, it would probably have some legal implications if EF hosted it. Is the community blog technically part of EF? Or perhaps EF could sponsor it through someone's private blog. Just a thought.
thats why i did the raffle on my blog... EF wasn't directly involved adn didn't have to do the legal mallarky.
06/02/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
Quote:
Originally posted by ToyTimeTim
Just for you.
thanks
06/02/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
Quote:
Originally posted by Kindred
The danger is that 2 reviews and they're eligible for Advanced status anyway. The incentive for the mentoring program should be to improve your review skills, not to get free toys. Free toys are the incentive of being an Advanced reviewer, ... more
Ideally, yes, but clearly idealism and reality don't match up here. At least by being forced to submit 1-2 reviews to your mentor you are giving something to EF in return for the toy.
06/02/2011
Contributor: Dusk Dusk
All right everyone, sorry but I have to go! Dinner's ready. I'll catch up on the thread later tonight. See you on the other side!
06/02/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
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Originally posted by Dusk
All right everyone, sorry but I have to go! Dinner's ready. I'll catch up on the thread later tonight. See you on the other side!
Bye, Dusk!
06/02/2011
Contributor: cherryredhead88 cherryredhead88
Quote:
Originally posted by Gary
A lot of people email me for advise in this situation and always tell them to email the student and give them a specific time frame to respond or complete their assignment, and if they do not respond by then - cancel the class. You gave them a ... more
I explain my expectations and what not at the beginning, but I just hate cancelling the class. I don't want to be perceived as a bad or impatient mentor. I think it actually was Kindred (you are so helpful! ) who gave me the idea of the 2 week warning that I use. I also let them know up front what I expect from them, but I just hate seeing all those cancelled classes on my roster.
06/02/2011
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
Ok folks, I'm not sure about Gary right now, but I gotta jet. We'll be checking back through this thread again later on, but if you have any ideas you don't want to leave here, you can email either one of us
06/02/2011
Contributor: Gary Gary
Quote:
Originally posted by markeagleone
Not to put Eden down but this is so that I can say my peace. Please don't take offense.

Since being voted into advanced reviewer status is the fastest way to go, is there any real way to stop people signing up for mentoring just for points.
We warn and even ban people for abuse. Yes it is possible, but I personally hope that we are able to continue these programs based on trusting the community. It would be a shame to all of you, if we had to crack down and design fool proof systems to restrict everything.

Good Question!
06/02/2011
Contributor: cherryredhead88 cherryredhead88
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Originally posted by Dusk
All right everyone, sorry but I have to go! Dinner's ready. I'll catch up on the thread later tonight. See you on the other side!
Enjoy your nom noms!
06/02/2011
Contributor: Kindred Kindred
Quote:
Originally posted by Vaccinium
Ideally, yes, but clearly idealism and reality don't match up here. At least by being forced to submit 1-2 reviews to your mentor you are giving something to EF in return for the toy.
But if we remove the free toy incentive, only the serious students will participate in the mentor program. Those just looking for the free toys can still get Advanced by vote and only the rare few will earn a high ranking for better toys.
06/02/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
Quote:
Originally posted by Kindred
The danger is that 2 reviews and they're eligible for Advanced status anyway. The incentive for the mentoring program should be to improve your review skills, not to get free toys. Free toys are the incentive of being an Advanced reviewer, ... more
I tell my students that the review is their payment for the toy. It's not a gift. The disclaimer at the bottom of the review clearly expresses that.
06/02/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
mmm So You Think You Can Dance is on... I haz happy!
06/02/2011
Contributor: Gary Gary
Quote:
Originally posted by Jul!a
Ok folks, I'm not sure about Gary right now, but I gotta jet. We'll be checking back through this thread again later on, but if you have any ideas you don't want to leave here, you can email either one of us
Yes, I do have to get rolling as well! It was great chatting with all of you!!!
06/02/2011